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bespoke radio for the masses headline

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edition july 8th 1947.

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the army air forces has announced that a

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if we were facing an alien threat

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jimmy church on the game changer radio

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i need your help to get to the year

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jimmy church on the game changer network

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location but it is beautiful in here

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listening all around the world all

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changer and on x networks

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i am your host jimmy church what is

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cracking everybody how you doing

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how you doing tonight

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well as you can see we are kicking off

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tonight adam apollo was here

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adam apollo is joining us tonight we are

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going to be discussing the physics of an

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extraterrestrial civilization tonight

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the secrets of egypt that is tomorrow

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everybody wants their own crystal skull

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i've got a huge crystal skull collection

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here in the studio you can get yours

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visit einstein the crystalskull.com

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promo code jimmy

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and you will get 10 off of your first or

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next crystal skull order today i will be

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speaking at the x conference coming up

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in uh two weeks two and a half weeks may

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paranormal investigation going on from 9

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dot com disclosure fest is also coming

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it's only one night or one day i should

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desert dwellers poron gee

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workshops with billy carson adam apollo

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is going to be there so just go to

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this october now space is very limited

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knowledge.com is where you go for all of

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over there and it's also my birthday and

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is fade to black questions let's get to

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the breaking news this past friday now

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i i do the news every night on this show

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this news which broke on friday april

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community of avalon on catalina and 44

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all right now it is now confirmed it's

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the hottest rock ever discovered in

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4298 degrees well it finally happened

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a federal judge in florida struck down

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and the mandate is no longer in effect

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the tsa so far as mum they have

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this and and pulling them i don't know

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and tsa hasn't made a formal

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announcement to the airlines about this

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very interesting and the news is pretty

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quiet on the matter well the big news of

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earlier today marvel

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released the trailer for its latest film

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in the marvel series

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all set to guns and rose's sweet child

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the film is premiering this july 8th

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new asgard

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but no loki

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which is why they call it a teaser

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seriously let's get this show cracking

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happy birthday to today

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david tennant

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i saw him in good omens

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i started chasing this guy down you know

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i just don't watch doctor who so i

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i became a david tennant fan today he's

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51 years old conan o'brien today is 59

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james woods today is 75

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bullet boys guitars mike uh mick mike

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oh mick don't be mad at me mick sweeta

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today is 62 years old and one of my

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favorites singer kelly hansen

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today is 61. right now he's well he's

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been the singer for foreigner since

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2005. so what is that

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17 years but before that he was in

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hurricane with doug aldrich

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creed guitarist mark tremante today

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is 48. our dead guy's birthday today is

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i need a moment of silence please for

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clarence gate mouth brown

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1940 and 1924 to 2005 died at the age of

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81.

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clarence was a singer and a

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multi-instrumentalist based in the blues

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he spent his career fighting purism by

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synthesizing traditional blues and

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country jazz

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cajun music r b rock and roll folk and

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texas blues threw it all in the blender

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he was amazing

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he was acclaimed for his skills on

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multiple instruments including the

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guitar the mandolin the viola the violin

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harmonica and drums he won a grammy

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award for best traditional blues album

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in 1983 for his album all right again he

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is regarded as one of the most

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influential exponents of the blues

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fiddle and had enormous influence in

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american fiddle circles

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he died in orange texas on september 10

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2005 at the apartment

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of a grand niece

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he was 81 years old happy birthday

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clarence gate mouth brown

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on this day in history otd

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[Music]

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1906

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it happened 5 13 a.m

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an earthquake estimated close to 8.0 on

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the richter scale strikes san francisco

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california killing an estimated 3 000

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people as it topples buildings all over

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the city

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and starts and then uncontrollable fire

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took about a week to put out

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on this day in 1906. fader fact

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roly-polies

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actually eat heavy metals

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such as

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lead

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zinc copper

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and cadmium

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protecting soil

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and groundwater

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and that

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is your fader fact they eat heavy metals

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they ingest them

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they enjoy them lead zinc copper and

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cadmium and others by the way

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all right that's your fader fact tonight

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very special guest

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adam apollo is here we're going to be

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discussing the physics of

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an extraterrestrial civilization and how

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they can travel the stars we're going to

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be doing that and so much more tonight

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with adam apollo

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and then tomorrow night billy carson is

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here the secrets of egypt and then

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wednesday night caroline corey is here

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she's got a new film coming out it is

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prepared it's preparing it's premiering

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may 3rd and we're going to talk a little

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bit about the film we're going to talk a

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whole lot about science and et so that's

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going down wednesday night thursday is

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another fader night with open lines all

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night long now i need to hit

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what do you guys think do you like the

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view

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do you like what's going on

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it's uh it's pretty cool

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a lot of work and i'm hoping

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that uh tonight's show

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is uh pretty smooth and we're gonna get

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through this and the audio is fine

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that's what i'm concerned about video

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looks pretty good but uh it's a new

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format

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and needed to respond

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to uh

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the world out there and technology and

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how people are doing things

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and

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that i talk about a lot on this show

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and we're gonna be doing that tonight

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with adam apollo

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so

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i need my river moon coffee to do all of

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physics is tough

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fade to black blend

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uh yeah just click on the banners over

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at jimmychurchradio.com

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but uh

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tonight

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and and kicking off this very important

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week here on fade to black we have one

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of my favorite guests adam apollo

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and aside from him

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just being a really cool person

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he's also really smart

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and

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my conversations with adam over the

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years

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uh always center around you know two of

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my favorite subjects

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physics and ufos

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it just doesn't get any better for me

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seriously now i've often wondered

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what if

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we actually get to discuss physics with

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et one day

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right

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and i mean a full-on sit-down

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in this conversation e.t kind of just

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says something like

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well yeah well uh

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we used to think at one time we thought

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we thanked we thinked

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just like you

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yeah

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but that's not how we do it now

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that

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the whole

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string theory thing you guys are you

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know working on right now it's a waste

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of time

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right you're spending too much time with

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math

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just think about that for a second

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string theory is deep for sure

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but um i'm not going to get into the

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specifics of it i'm not going to do that

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now that's a whole

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another show and physicists out there

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can't even agree on it and it's a big

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mystery but

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but the short description

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of string theory is this

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there are strings

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that vibrate like these guitars behind

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me

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and

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certain frequencies when they vibrate

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determine

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right

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now we're talking about this is the

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smallest of the small

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we will never see it

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i mean

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we will never ever ever ever ever see it

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as in never

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what we are depending on here is math

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and the description

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of the math

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right to paint a picture for us right

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the math is going to paint a picture for

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us

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of vibrating strings

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and we depend on physicists these

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computer screens full of algorithms and

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white boards and

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things and

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chicken scratch

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and turning that into something that we

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can understand both visually

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and by the mouth and spoken word to

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explain what all of this is and right

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now they're telling us

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it's vibrating strings

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now brian greene

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who has been leading the research into

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string theory

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says that they have a pretty good

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foundation going on right now but the

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completion of their work

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if it ever happens brian's words not

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mine

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won't be

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for at least another 50 years

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and again that's the math part that's

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the math part and if and when that ever

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happens

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it'll be the numbers

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that we are shown

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and then the description

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of them

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we're not going to see the strings

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themselves

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or the extra dimensions that may or may

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not uh be surrounding them and where

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they may reside or anything else for

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that matter it's just too small

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and honestly

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no matter what

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it has to be the same

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for an extraterrestrial civilization in

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that

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they have to have gone through

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the same processes of trying to figure

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out how everything works you know and at

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some point

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discovered something that had nothing to

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do with math

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and to be honest the colossal waste of

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time that it can present but

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they just found out that you have to

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work with it it's just physics physics

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is the same everywhere you just have to

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go with it

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do you have to know everything when you

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board a plane for instance

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you have to know everything do you have

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to know every system and subsystem when

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you fly no you don't

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and neither does the pilot

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who only has to know how to fly the

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plane

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right and you you only have to know

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where you want to go and how you're

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going to pay for the tickets that's all

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you really know it's the same thing for

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your car

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you only have to know how to start it

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right

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how to point it safely in a direction

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that's all you don't have to know

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everything about the car

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and the physics behind it do you have to

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know you don't

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look

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you wake up in the middle of the night

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and

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you want the best burger on the planet

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you jump in your car you drive 10 miles

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in 10 minutes to a 24 hour drive through

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you pay for it with a plastic card you

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drive home and you munch out you do it

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because

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it's easy

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and it's fun

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that's why you do it

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200 years ago

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your trip for that burger would have

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been compared to some satanic black

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seriously

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when we hear different thinkers today

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argue about how far e.t would have to

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travel to get here and the extraordinary

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times involved in doing it and the fact

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that we haven't seen any evidence of

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this happening out there in the stars

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it's the same stuff you would have been

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saying

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about your trip for the burger at

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midnight 200 years ago that it's totally

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impossible and it'll never happen

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e.t

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visits us and the rest of the universe

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because it's easy

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because it's fast

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it's not a big deal

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you know and we are going through this

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math and we're trying to

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and just delaying things and and trying

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to get answers mathematically that may

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be incorrect from the word go anyway

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that's what we are doing today

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right

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for e.t

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to to bounce around we oh man it's 12

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000 light years do you know how many

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astronomical units that is do you have

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any idea how long that would take do you

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have any idea et's doing it because it

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doesn't take any time

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think about it

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now

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just like your trip to the 24-hour

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drive-thru today

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20 miles round trip and you're doing

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that you're back home

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in 30 minutes with a bag full of hot

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food

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200 years ago 20 miles 20 miles do you

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know how long that would take and if you

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told somebody 200 years ago that you

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were going to do this in the middle of

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the night when you woke up and you're

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just like ah yeah i'm just gonna i'm

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just gonna drive to the next town

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think about that

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it's the very same argument you drive

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10 miles 20 miles for food because it's

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easy fast and it's fun and it doesn't

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take any time

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it's the same principles here the day

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that we sit down with e.t

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and we start finding these things out

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about how they do it why they do it when

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they do it and how long it takes think

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about that

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and they're going to go it's easy man

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it's easy

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yeah

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this is fade to black i am your host

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jimmy church tonight

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on this program

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adam apollo is here very special week

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billy carson is with us and then uh

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what's up i'm chris what up this is

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[Music]

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all right welcome back fade to black i

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am your host jimmy church tonight adam

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apollo is with us

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adam apollo now here is the deal as a

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child adam uh had several encounters

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with extraterrestrial starships since

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uh since awakening at about 15 years he

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has dedicated himself to extensive

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studies in theoretical physics symbolic

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geometry past life recall sanskr healing

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00:32:17,430 --> 00:32:14,799
taoist alchemy martial arts energy

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00:32:19,669 --> 00:32:17,440
therapies occult magic and many diverse

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00:32:21,350 --> 00:32:19,679
ancient and modern spiritual traditions

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00:32:23,110 --> 00:32:21,360
and practices

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he is the founder of the unified

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movement and several education and

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technology based companies and

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00:32:31,029 --> 00:32:28,720
organizations as well as a faculty

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00:32:33,430 --> 00:32:31,039
member for the residence academy for

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00:32:35,269 --> 00:32:33,440
unified physics he has also provided

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development consultation and white paper

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editing for multiple organizations

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following on sovereignty

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decentralization and cryptocurrencies

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including

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swarm dot fund adam is dedicated to

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achieving sustainable and thriving

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interplanetary culture and i want you to

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visit adam apollo.com

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and i would like to welcome back to fade

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to black the one and only

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adam apollo adam my man how you doing oh

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you gotta there you go excellent jimmy

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how are you tonight man i i am fantastic

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man it's it's great to have you here

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this is a it's a pretty big night

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and

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uh you know i wanted to uh you know talk

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about physics and

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extraterrestrial civilizations and in

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00:33:24,389 --> 00:33:21,039
the science and all of that

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00:33:26,230 --> 00:33:24,399
but uh tonight with our new format i had

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to do it with

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somebody that just looked really good

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that was smile

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i picked my good friend adam apollo but

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um what have you been up to now you

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00:33:44,310 --> 00:33:41,760
haven't been uh with this uh for a few

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months but we're winding down

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on this worldwide insanity you know this

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00:33:51,509 --> 00:33:48,799
is starting

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00:33:53,110 --> 00:33:51,519
i'm starting to feel a little bit normal

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00:33:53,830 --> 00:33:53,120
how about you

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uh

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i don't know if i've ever felt normal in

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my life to be honest with you but um i

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will say that collectively as a whole i

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think that uh the world is taking a few

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deeper breaths than it has in a while

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00:34:10,230 --> 00:34:08,399
and i think that's really really

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important because we've all been through

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00:34:14,230 --> 00:34:12,399
a lot it's been a deeply

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00:34:16,389 --> 00:34:14,240
transformational time it's been a

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00:34:19,109 --> 00:34:16,399
difficult time for a lot of people

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there's been a huge amount of division

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because of differences in perspective

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00:34:25,190 --> 00:34:22,720
and challenges and

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acceptance of what friends or family

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00:34:30,230 --> 00:34:27,359
members choices are

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but i think in the end you know we learn

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that accepting each other for whatever

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00:34:37,829 --> 00:34:35,919
our choices are is always the right path

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it always brings us a little closer to

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peace

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brings us into a little bit greater

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harmony with each other

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and

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i also notice in my own network people

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00:34:50,149 --> 00:34:47,200
are just like you know what it's all

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good whatever's happened it's all good

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let's get together let's get it done

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let's move the bar forward let's move

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the boat of planetary transformation

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the

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outlook that i had two years ago

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was that

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this is

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traumatic

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um

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that in the end we are going to find out

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uh that we're all friends on this planet

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that we can help each other and that at

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the end of this we're gonna come out of

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this better i know it sounds weird to

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say right now

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but at the end of it all

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it's going to be a different world

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i have have we achieved that different

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00:35:39,829 --> 00:35:37,760
world do you think that there's a

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different outlook with our brothers and

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00:35:43,510 --> 00:35:41,200
sisters that you know we're all

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earthlings here right on this

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brilliant blue ball are we gonna come

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out of this uh

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stronger and better

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00:35:56,150 --> 00:35:52,720
i believe we will i believe that

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as communities you know the progress is

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00:35:59,829 --> 00:35:57,440
marked by

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one by one you know it's one person

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00:36:04,069 --> 00:36:01,920
making a change and then it's one

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community making a change one group of

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friends making a change

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and that's the way big change actually

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00:36:13,670 --> 00:36:11,760
happens it's not always like a flashpan

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overnight you know when we

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founded the unify organization back in

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2012

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00:36:22,310 --> 00:36:19,760
you know we had this angle that

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00:36:23,670 --> 00:36:22,320
december 21st 2012 if we could just get

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00:36:25,510 --> 00:36:23,680
enough people

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00:36:28,710 --> 00:36:25,520
meditating and dropping in together at

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the same exact time all over the world

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00:36:35,670 --> 00:36:30,960
maybe we could just pop the collective

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00:36:37,910 --> 00:36:35,680
out of our you know trauma state and and

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00:36:39,190 --> 00:36:37,920
go into a higher vision of what this

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planet is

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and i can tell you now after having

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unified hundreds of millions of people

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00:36:48,790 --> 00:36:46,400
in many many campaigns and the unifi

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00:36:50,790 --> 00:36:48,800
core team has done a fantastic job you

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know creating and continuing this

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00:36:57,510 --> 00:36:54,240
process of synchronizing people around

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00:36:59,670 --> 00:36:57,520
change making meditation around direct

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action cleaning up waters cleaning up

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the ocean

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00:37:03,910 --> 00:37:02,400
that

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you know

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i i'm a strong believer in the

823
00:37:10,950 --> 00:37:09,359
collective effect as they say the 100th

824
00:37:13,910 --> 00:37:10,960
monkey effect you know when enough

825
00:37:15,990 --> 00:37:13,920
people do something then others wake up

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00:37:17,030 --> 00:37:16,000
to it and i think we're having that

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effect

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00:37:19,750 --> 00:37:18,079
pretty much

829
00:37:22,630 --> 00:37:19,760
constantly right now

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00:37:25,349 --> 00:37:22,640
but it there's you know 8 billion people

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on this planet and so

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00:37:29,510 --> 00:37:28,400
even though there is a massive tide of

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00:37:31,829 --> 00:37:29,520
change

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00:37:32,710 --> 00:37:31,839
there's still a process that it takes

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for

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more and more and more of the collective

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00:37:38,550 --> 00:37:36,560
to actually step into a new way of being

838
00:37:39,829 --> 00:37:38,560
and a new way of living and for any of

839
00:37:41,750 --> 00:37:39,839
us who have gone through any kind of

840
00:37:44,550 --> 00:37:41,760
spiritual development or awakening

841
00:37:46,630 --> 00:37:44,560
experience you know that sometimes

842
00:37:49,190 --> 00:37:46,640
that kind of experience happens

843
00:37:50,870 --> 00:37:49,200
and you go back to business as usual you

844
00:37:54,870 --> 00:37:50,880
go back to the way you were behaving

845
00:37:56,630 --> 00:37:54,880
before it takes consistency practice and

846
00:37:59,750 --> 00:37:56,640
sometimes repetitive

847
00:38:01,349 --> 00:37:59,760
transcendental experiences to stabilize

848
00:38:04,069 --> 00:38:01,359
into new states of energy and

849
00:38:06,150 --> 00:38:04,079
consciousness so that we can actually

850
00:38:07,589 --> 00:38:06,160
experience that more widely as a

851
00:38:10,790 --> 00:38:07,599
collective

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00:38:12,390 --> 00:38:10,800
do you feel uh well i want to just get

853
00:38:14,829 --> 00:38:12,400
straight into this

854
00:38:16,829 --> 00:38:14,839
do you feel that an

855
00:38:19,270 --> 00:38:16,839
extraterrestrial

856
00:38:22,550 --> 00:38:19,280
civilization would have to have gone

857
00:38:24,870 --> 00:38:22,560
through the same evolutionary processes

858
00:38:27,430 --> 00:38:24,880
that we did and are going through here

859
00:38:29,990 --> 00:38:27,440
on earth did they experience

860
00:38:31,750 --> 00:38:30,000
everything you know starting with let's

861
00:38:33,990 --> 00:38:31,760
sometimes you know like did they start

862
00:38:37,510 --> 00:38:34,000
with fire

863
00:38:40,230 --> 00:38:37,520
and did they did they end in nuclear war

864
00:38:43,270 --> 00:38:40,240
and and got hit by an asteroid

865
00:38:44,870 --> 00:38:43,280
you know i'd say that from my experience

866
00:38:45,829 --> 00:38:44,880
and my contact experiences and

867
00:38:49,190 --> 00:38:45,839
communication with different

868
00:38:52,870 --> 00:38:49,200
civilizations it's been a different path

869
00:38:54,470 --> 00:38:52,880
for each species on their planet

870
00:38:57,270 --> 00:38:54,480
for example for

871
00:38:59,510 --> 00:38:57,280
the pleiadian species the answer was not

872
00:39:01,990 --> 00:38:59,520
fire fire was not the big breakthrough

873
00:39:03,349 --> 00:39:02,000
right the big breakthrough was water

874
00:39:06,710 --> 00:39:03,359
because the

875
00:39:09,030 --> 00:39:06,720
planet that they evolved on is mostly

876
00:39:11,589 --> 00:39:09,040
covered in water with island chains

877
00:39:14,550 --> 00:39:11,599
and they showed me that essentially the

878
00:39:17,270 --> 00:39:14,560
understanding of the keys to water how

879
00:39:20,310 --> 00:39:17,280
water comes into being how water

880
00:39:21,990 --> 00:39:20,320
vibrates how water can densify and

881
00:39:24,710 --> 00:39:22,000
lighten

882
00:39:27,030 --> 00:39:24,720
the mastery of water was the key for

883
00:39:29,349 --> 00:39:27,040
them that spawned technological

884
00:39:32,310 --> 00:39:29,359
evolution and all the way to learning

885
00:39:35,589 --> 00:39:32,320
how to create spaceship holes literally

886
00:39:37,750 --> 00:39:35,599
made out of aqueous membranes that act

887
00:39:39,829 --> 00:39:37,760
like diaphragms for example another

888
00:39:42,790 --> 00:39:39,839
species the nagura that i came into

889
00:39:45,829 --> 00:39:42,800
contact with at some point showed me

890
00:39:48,310 --> 00:39:45,839
that on their planet they had this

891
00:39:49,990 --> 00:39:48,320
deep challenge of having essentially

892
00:39:51,190 --> 00:39:50,000
pterodactyl-like

893
00:39:53,430 --> 00:39:51,200
creatures

894
00:39:56,310 --> 00:39:53,440
flying around on their planet and they

895
00:39:58,470 --> 00:39:56,320
developed these bone ridges on their

896
00:40:01,349 --> 00:39:58,480
heads almost like a shield like

897
00:40:03,349 --> 00:40:01,359
structure of their skulls on their heads

898
00:40:05,109 --> 00:40:03,359
as a defense mechanism to protect them

899
00:40:07,510 --> 00:40:05,119
against these you know

900
00:40:09,670 --> 00:40:07,520
flying dinosaurs essentially that would

901
00:40:11,030 --> 00:40:09,680
come down and try to snatch them try to

902
00:40:13,030 --> 00:40:11,040
bite them

903
00:40:15,270 --> 00:40:13,040
and so for them

904
00:40:17,910 --> 00:40:15,280
the tech the evolution was actually

905
00:40:20,390 --> 00:40:17,920
about learning how to communicate with

906
00:40:23,589 --> 00:40:20,400
animal species by learning the subtle

907
00:40:27,430 --> 00:40:23,599
vibrations that drive psychological

908
00:40:30,309 --> 00:40:27,440
responses in wild animals they learned

909
00:40:32,710 --> 00:40:30,319
the subtleties of of the magic of sound

910
00:40:34,790 --> 00:40:32,720
and vibration and how to actually

911
00:40:37,109 --> 00:40:34,800
vibrate things in a way that

912
00:40:39,750 --> 00:40:37,119
spawned a massive technical evolution

913
00:40:41,990 --> 00:40:39,760
for them for the syrians it's living on

914
00:40:43,750 --> 00:40:42,000
a planet with two sons you have daylight

915
00:40:46,950 --> 00:40:43,760
all the time you got light all the time

916
00:40:48,950 --> 00:40:46,960
you have to learn how to manage light

917
00:40:51,030 --> 00:40:48,960
how to manage sunlight to be able to see

918
00:40:54,790 --> 00:40:51,040
the stars to be able to work with things

919
00:40:56,870 --> 00:40:54,800
and so for them light was the functional

920
00:40:59,510 --> 00:40:56,880
element you could say of reality that

921
00:41:01,430 --> 00:40:59,520
drove their technological evolution so

922
00:41:02,390 --> 00:41:01,440
different paths for different beings for

923
00:41:05,430 --> 00:41:02,400
sure

924
00:41:08,470 --> 00:41:05,440
now and what about okay

925
00:41:11,670 --> 00:41:08,480
so it's it's water for one it's it's

926
00:41:13,670 --> 00:41:11,680
it's it energy i i get that

927
00:41:15,670 --> 00:41:13,680
what about the other stuff

928
00:41:19,030 --> 00:41:15,680
philosophy did they go through

929
00:41:22,150 --> 00:41:19,040
they go through

930
00:41:25,109 --> 00:41:22,160
uh entertainment and the arts and

931
00:41:27,750 --> 00:41:25,119
in writing and poetry and music did they

932
00:41:30,309 --> 00:41:27,760
have van halen for instance you know for

933
00:41:34,309 --> 00:41:30,319
you it's nine inch nails and

934
00:41:39,750 --> 00:41:36,150
did did they do that you know did they

935
00:41:42,470 --> 00:41:39,760
go through that part of it as well i i

936
00:41:44,550 --> 00:41:42,480
sometimes picture a dry

937
00:41:45,990 --> 00:41:44,560
you know that's my fear right some

938
00:41:49,190 --> 00:41:46,000
culture that

939
00:41:51,510 --> 00:41:49,200
didn't explore the arts or philosophy

940
00:41:53,109 --> 00:41:51,520
that they stayed black and white and

941
00:41:55,670 --> 00:41:53,119
pramatic and

942
00:41:58,550 --> 00:41:55,680
pragmatic in chemistry and math and

943
00:42:00,470 --> 00:41:58,560
science and there will be no fun

944
00:42:02,870 --> 00:42:00,480
yeah well you know as we always talk

945
00:42:04,390 --> 00:42:02,880
about in our conversations jimmy it's

946
00:42:08,309 --> 00:42:04,400
tough to throw

947
00:42:10,870 --> 00:42:08,319
any culture any race any species into a

948
00:42:13,589 --> 00:42:10,880
vast enough bucket that you can sort of

949
00:42:15,270 --> 00:42:13,599
essentially generalize to the entire way

950
00:42:17,109 --> 00:42:15,280
of being and if we're talking about

951
00:42:18,870 --> 00:42:17,119
throwing all the species in the galaxy

952
00:42:20,470 --> 00:42:18,880
into that kind of bucket you know i'm

953
00:42:22,710 --> 00:42:20,480
going to push back strongly which is why

954
00:42:24,630 --> 00:42:22,720
i like to speak to each individual

955
00:42:27,030 --> 00:42:24,640
species that i know about and that i've

956
00:42:28,630 --> 00:42:27,040
had experiences with now

957
00:42:29,589 --> 00:42:28,640
that being said

958
00:42:31,589 --> 00:42:29,599
you know

959
00:42:35,109 --> 00:42:31,599
does anybody else out there have a you

960
00:42:37,030 --> 00:42:35,119
know a van halen no sir not not not

961
00:42:40,790 --> 00:42:37,040
exactly you know does anybody got a

962
00:42:43,829 --> 00:42:40,800
james brown out there absolutely not but

963
00:42:46,230 --> 00:42:43,839
you know our journey of art on this

964
00:42:48,390 --> 00:42:46,240
planet is special and

965
00:42:50,870 --> 00:42:48,400
and beautiful and our

966
00:42:52,550 --> 00:42:50,880
specific ways of exploring the universe

967
00:42:54,069 --> 00:42:52,560
and the philosophy of being and the

968
00:42:56,710 --> 00:42:54,079
magic of music

969
00:42:58,630 --> 00:42:56,720
is is original and is different than

970
00:43:00,710 --> 00:42:58,640
anywhere else out there in the universe

971
00:43:01,910 --> 00:43:00,720
and that's part of what makes us human

972
00:43:05,430 --> 00:43:01,920
that's what part of what makes us

973
00:43:06,790 --> 00:43:05,440
special now are there other pathways and

974
00:43:09,990 --> 00:43:06,800
art forms

975
00:43:12,630 --> 00:43:10,000
and capacities and practices that other

976
00:43:15,589 --> 00:43:12,640
species develop that could equate to the

977
00:43:17,510 --> 00:43:15,599
level of depth of philosophy that we

978
00:43:20,550 --> 00:43:17,520
have on this planet or arts that we have

979
00:43:23,510 --> 00:43:20,560
on this planet absolutely in fact i know

980
00:43:26,230 --> 00:43:23,520
of some worlds where their mastery in

981
00:43:27,589 --> 00:43:26,240
particular areas has led them down

982
00:43:29,190 --> 00:43:27,599
pathways to

983
00:43:30,630 --> 00:43:29,200
just uh

984
00:43:33,030 --> 00:43:30,640
things that would essentially be

985
00:43:36,390 --> 00:43:33,040
absolutely mind-blowing to us that that

986
00:43:39,190 --> 00:43:36,400
just we can't even conceive of society

987
00:43:41,430 --> 00:43:39,200
operating with these particular gifts or

988
00:43:44,069 --> 00:43:41,440
these particular things and yet and yet

989
00:43:45,910 --> 00:43:44,079
they exist out there um you know i i

990
00:43:48,069 --> 00:43:45,920
speak about the pleiadians a lot and one

991
00:43:51,109 --> 00:43:48,079
of their major gifts is that they have a

992
00:43:54,069 --> 00:43:51,119
entirely different way of defining and

993
00:43:56,630 --> 00:43:54,079
relating to sexuality than people do in

994
00:43:58,470 --> 00:43:56,640
many other planets out there and wait

995
00:44:01,829 --> 00:43:58,480
wait wait how so

996
00:44:04,309 --> 00:44:01,839
yeah so uh from my own experiences there

997
00:44:05,190 --> 00:44:04,319
as a pleiadian as well as memories that

998
00:44:07,589 --> 00:44:05,200
i've

999
00:44:09,349 --> 00:44:07,599
encountered from many many of my

1000
00:44:11,349 --> 00:44:09,359
pleiadian friends and family that are

1001
00:44:12,470 --> 00:44:11,359
here on this planet now

1002
00:44:14,470 --> 00:44:12,480
essentially

1003
00:44:17,270 --> 00:44:14,480
one of the things that they practice is

1004
00:44:19,670 --> 00:44:17,280
they have these healing spas so to speak

1005
00:44:22,150 --> 00:44:19,680
they're like grottos and some of them

1006
00:44:23,990 --> 00:44:22,160
are built actually in caverns where you

1007
00:44:27,230 --> 00:44:24,000
can go under the water and then come up

1008
00:44:29,109 --> 00:44:27,240
into these air caverns uh full of

1009
00:44:31,030 --> 00:44:29,119
bioluminescence and beautiful

1010
00:44:33,910 --> 00:44:31,040
crystalline structures and these are

1011
00:44:37,190 --> 00:44:33,920
essentially healing centers where

1012
00:44:38,790 --> 00:44:37,200
there is an open exploration of healing

1013
00:44:42,710 --> 00:44:38,800
and sexuality

1014
00:44:45,030 --> 00:44:42,720
imagine you know a 24 7 orgy going on

1015
00:44:48,150 --> 00:44:45,040
but that is not

1016
00:44:49,910 --> 00:44:48,160
fixed to an act or a particular type of

1017
00:44:53,349 --> 00:44:49,920
pleasure or a particular type of

1018
00:44:55,270 --> 00:44:53,359
experience but is instead this dynamic

1019
00:44:56,390 --> 00:44:55,280
weave of souls

1020
00:44:57,670 --> 00:44:56,400
literally

1021
00:45:00,309 --> 00:44:57,680
essentially

1022
00:45:02,710 --> 00:45:00,319
decompressing from their other work in

1023
00:45:04,309 --> 00:45:02,720
the universe whatever they do out there

1024
00:45:06,470 --> 00:45:04,319
in the world whatever they do across

1025
00:45:09,190 --> 00:45:06,480
worlds uh whether they're a stellar

1026
00:45:11,349 --> 00:45:09,200
ambassador or a guardian on a planet or

1027
00:45:13,750 --> 00:45:11,359
they're you know a traveler or they're

1028
00:45:16,150 --> 00:45:13,760
you know a translator of language or

1029
00:45:18,870 --> 00:45:16,160
they guide in starships from one of the

1030
00:45:20,950 --> 00:45:18,880
polls in the syrian system they go

1031
00:45:23,510 --> 00:45:20,960
people beings from all over the galaxy

1032
00:45:26,309 --> 00:45:23,520
go to these places to essentially

1033
00:45:28,230 --> 00:45:26,319
completely decompress go through massive

1034
00:45:29,109 --> 00:45:28,240
physiological healing

1035
00:45:31,829 --> 00:45:29,119
have

1036
00:45:34,150 --> 00:45:31,839
rich and deep and diverse sexual

1037
00:45:36,790 --> 00:45:34,160
experiences and essentially nourish

1038
00:45:39,109 --> 00:45:36,800
themselves back into their full strength

1039
00:45:41,430 --> 00:45:39,119
their full power their full state of

1040
00:45:43,589 --> 00:45:41,440
self-love and appreciation to be able to

1041
00:45:44,790 --> 00:45:43,599
then go back out and do their work out

1042
00:45:45,589 --> 00:45:44,800
in the universe

1043
00:45:46,390 --> 00:45:45,599
and

1044
00:45:48,710 --> 00:45:46,400
yeah

1045
00:45:50,309 --> 00:45:48,720
that's a different one well you know

1046
00:45:52,470 --> 00:45:50,319
here's the thing

1047
00:45:54,870 --> 00:45:52,480
eventually

1048
00:45:58,630 --> 00:45:54,880
somebody's going to get shot up on

1049
00:46:01,109 --> 00:45:58,640
spacex's falcon 9 to the iss

1050
00:46:04,870 --> 00:46:01,119
for such an experiment

1051
00:46:06,870 --> 00:46:04,880
i hope so jimmy i honestly do

1052
00:46:09,270 --> 00:46:06,880
we've been waiting for that for a while

1053
00:46:10,870 --> 00:46:09,280
right we i i mean it's on everybody's

1054
00:46:12,309 --> 00:46:10,880
mind right sure

1055
00:46:14,950 --> 00:46:12,319
not just not playing especially the

1056
00:46:17,349 --> 00:46:14,960
pleiadians that are here jesus come on

1057
00:46:19,670 --> 00:46:17,359
humans catch up

1058
00:46:25,589 --> 00:46:19,680
seriously we've all been thinking about

1059
00:46:29,349 --> 00:46:25,599
that now um uh to that end um i i

1060
00:46:31,589 --> 00:46:29,359
i spoke in the beginning uh in my rant

1061
00:46:32,710 --> 00:46:31,599
about uh

1062
00:46:35,190 --> 00:46:32,720
the

1063
00:46:36,309 --> 00:46:35,200
et's coming here because it's fast easy

1064
00:46:38,950 --> 00:46:36,319
and fun

1065
00:46:42,390 --> 00:46:38,960
it doesn't take any time it's this isn't

1066
00:46:44,790 --> 00:46:42,400
what we think it is when we base it on

1067
00:46:47,030 --> 00:46:44,800
physics how we know it today and you

1068
00:46:49,270 --> 00:46:47,040
have all these smart physicists you know

1069
00:46:52,710 --> 00:46:49,280
these guys that say that they're smart

1070
00:46:57,829 --> 00:46:54,870
and that's say you know these vast

1071
00:47:00,630 --> 00:46:57,839
distances and it would take you know

1072
00:47:01,510 --> 00:47:00,640
a million light years and okay

1073
00:47:04,230 --> 00:47:01,520
um

1074
00:47:06,150 --> 00:47:04,240
and people listen to them yeah but

1075
00:47:08,870 --> 00:47:06,160
that i don't think that that is the case

1076
00:47:09,670 --> 00:47:08,880
and i equate it adam

1077
00:47:10,710 --> 00:47:09,680
to

1078
00:47:12,230 --> 00:47:10,720
you

1079
00:47:13,829 --> 00:47:12,240
driving

1080
00:47:16,470 --> 00:47:13,839
in your car

1081
00:47:18,630 --> 00:47:16,480
to go 50 miles to buy a pair of shoes

1082
00:47:20,470 --> 00:47:18,640
and come back home yeah

1083
00:47:22,309 --> 00:47:20,480
you know you're a fashion conscious guy

1084
00:47:24,630 --> 00:47:22,319
that's why

1085
00:47:25,349 --> 00:47:24,640
let's just say that that's the case

1086
00:47:27,270 --> 00:47:25,359
right

1087
00:47:28,950 --> 00:47:27,280
and and you drive for a pair of shoes

1088
00:47:30,790 --> 00:47:28,960
you pay for the shoes with a with a

1089
00:47:33,430 --> 00:47:30,800
plastic card

1090
00:47:35,190 --> 00:47:33,440
and and you drive home listening to

1091
00:47:38,069 --> 00:47:35,200
satellite radio

1092
00:47:40,790 --> 00:47:38,079
and and your home uh you went there and

1093
00:47:42,390 --> 00:47:40,800
back you did 100 miles in an hour right

1094
00:47:44,390 --> 00:47:42,400
whatever sure

1095
00:47:46,710 --> 00:47:44,400
but 200 years ago

1096
00:47:48,549 --> 00:47:46,720
that's black magic

1097
00:47:50,630 --> 00:47:48,559
that's crazy and you would have

1098
00:47:53,589 --> 00:47:50,640
everybody saying that's impossible

1099
00:47:55,910 --> 00:47:53,599
exactly you can't do that well you do it

1100
00:47:58,309 --> 00:47:55,920
today because it's fast easy and it's

1101
00:47:59,349 --> 00:47:58,319
fun and it takes some time it's easy to

1102
00:48:02,549 --> 00:47:59,359
do

1103
00:48:04,790 --> 00:48:02,559
that it would have to be the same for et

1104
00:48:07,430 --> 00:48:04,800
right that's right that's right you know

1105
00:48:09,270 --> 00:48:07,440
stephen hawking as much as i love the

1106
00:48:11,589 --> 00:48:09,280
guy for a lot of his brilliance and his

1107
00:48:13,750 --> 00:48:11,599
insights and you know i love the movie

1108
00:48:15,430 --> 00:48:13,760
about him it was just really sweet and

1109
00:48:18,069 --> 00:48:15,440
and gentle and kind

1110
00:48:20,230 --> 00:48:18,079
and but to be honest like you know the

1111
00:48:23,109 --> 00:48:20,240
guy kind of really screwed the pooch

1112
00:48:23,910 --> 00:48:23,119
when it came to as they say when it came

1113
00:48:30,549 --> 00:48:23,920
to

1114
00:48:31,510 --> 00:48:30,559
because this guy is absolutely brilliant

1115
00:48:32,710 --> 00:48:31,520
you know

1116
00:48:34,710 --> 00:48:32,720
and yet

1117
00:48:37,510 --> 00:48:34,720
he can't conceive

1118
00:48:38,790 --> 00:48:37,520
of the idea that some species somewhere

1119
00:48:42,230 --> 00:48:38,800
in the galaxy

1120
00:48:44,309 --> 00:48:42,240
figures out how to essentially control

1121
00:48:45,670 --> 00:48:44,319
gravity right like because that's all it

1122
00:48:47,990 --> 00:48:45,680
really takes we're literally talking

1123
00:48:50,309 --> 00:48:48,000
about control over the fabric of

1124
00:48:52,069 --> 00:48:50,319
space-time itself the structure of space

1125
00:48:54,470 --> 00:48:52,079
time the flow of space time the

1126
00:48:56,870 --> 00:48:54,480
curvature of space time i.e gravity

1127
00:48:59,589 --> 00:48:56,880
right and and so you have this brilliant

1128
00:49:01,990 --> 00:48:59,599
physicist who's still thinking

1129
00:49:03,670 --> 00:49:02,000
just you know like somebody from the 60s

1130
00:49:05,349 --> 00:49:03,680
or the 50s or

1131
00:49:08,630 --> 00:49:05,359
however far back you want to go your

1132
00:49:11,510 --> 00:49:08,640
first rocket was in the 1500s in china

1133
00:49:13,190 --> 00:49:11,520
and the idea is you put a bunch of fuel

1134
00:49:16,950 --> 00:49:13,200
in this little thing and you light a

1135
00:49:19,030 --> 00:49:16,960
fuse and it propels you into the sky

1136
00:49:22,470 --> 00:49:19,040
and so people think that the most

1137
00:49:23,589 --> 00:49:22,480
advanced way to explore the stars still

1138
00:49:25,990 --> 00:49:23,599
must be

1139
00:49:29,430 --> 00:49:26,000
you know lighting the fuse on a bomb

1140
00:49:31,990 --> 00:49:29,440
underneath us and riding the explosion

1141
00:49:34,630 --> 00:49:32,000
which essentially is absolutely

1142
00:49:37,430 --> 00:49:34,640
inefficient and is a fundamentally

1143
00:49:38,630 --> 00:49:37,440
terrible idea in terms of its waste in

1144
00:49:40,470 --> 00:49:38,640
terms of the way it works with

1145
00:49:42,150 --> 00:49:40,480
space-time because einstein he pointed

1146
00:49:44,390 --> 00:49:42,160
out to us he's like look when you

1147
00:49:47,430 --> 00:49:44,400
accelerate through space-time you know

1148
00:49:49,829 --> 00:49:47,440
go up an elevator real fast you can feel

1149
00:49:51,910 --> 00:49:49,839
it you're warping space-time and the

1150
00:49:53,829 --> 00:49:51,920
more you bend space time by hitting the

1151
00:49:55,990 --> 00:49:53,839
accelerator to get you know going 100

1152
00:49:58,630 --> 00:49:56,000
miles an hour to go get some shoes 50

1153
00:50:01,910 --> 00:49:58,640
miles away or whatever that is like

1154
00:50:04,549 --> 00:50:01,920
every time you feel that g-force you are

1155
00:50:07,190 --> 00:50:04,559
experiencing space-time bending around

1156
00:50:09,349 --> 00:50:07,200
you and the more you bend space-time the

1157
00:50:11,109 --> 00:50:09,359
harder and harder it is to do and it

1158
00:50:13,109 --> 00:50:11,119
gets to the point where it takes

1159
00:50:16,309 --> 00:50:13,119
literally infinite energy to go any

1160
00:50:18,069 --> 00:50:16,319
faster if you accelerate up to the speed

1161
00:50:21,670 --> 00:50:18,079
of light now

1162
00:50:24,710 --> 00:50:21,680
there's another way around this jimmy

1163
00:50:27,270 --> 00:50:24,720
i'm waiting okay actually

1164
00:50:28,870 --> 00:50:27,280
let me respond to that let me respond i

1165
00:50:32,710 --> 00:50:28,880
figured you wanted to i

1166
00:50:35,030 --> 00:50:32,720
i i um i saw a chapter in a book uh

1167
00:50:37,190 --> 00:50:35,040
and and i right not a chapter i'm sorry

1168
00:50:39,589 --> 00:50:37,200
paragraph and i read it like this is

1169
00:50:41,589 --> 00:50:39,599
last week and i read it like 10 times

1170
00:50:44,230 --> 00:50:41,599
over and over again

1171
00:50:46,950 --> 00:50:44,240
this physicist argument

1172
00:50:48,950 --> 00:50:46,960
at traveling at or near the speed of

1173
00:50:52,150 --> 00:50:48,960
light in a spacecraft

1174
00:50:55,990 --> 00:50:52,160
is impossible because every

1175
00:50:59,430 --> 00:50:56,000
uh cubic square meter of space

1176
00:51:01,829 --> 00:50:59,440
has at least a hydrogen atom in it that

1177
00:51:03,109 --> 00:51:01,839
space isn't empty and then at the speed

1178
00:51:05,270 --> 00:51:03,119
of light

1179
00:51:08,549 --> 00:51:05,280
you will be

1180
00:51:10,230 --> 00:51:08,559
not hitting particles you are you are

1181
00:51:11,510 --> 00:51:10,240
crashing through

1182
00:51:13,910 --> 00:51:11,520
a sea

1183
00:51:16,230 --> 00:51:13,920
of hydrogen atoms that would pulverize

1184
00:51:18,069 --> 00:51:16,240
your ship yeah now

1185
00:51:20,069 --> 00:51:18,079
i don't think that that's but that's

1186
00:51:22,549 --> 00:51:20,079
their counter argument to this right

1187
00:51:23,910 --> 00:51:22,559
sure sure there has to be something else

1188
00:51:27,510 --> 00:51:23,920
in play here

1189
00:51:29,750 --> 00:51:27,520
he's thinking of newtonian physics right

1190
00:51:31,750 --> 00:51:29,760
just moving straight ahead and and

1191
00:51:34,390 --> 00:51:31,760
that's it right with a candle on the

1192
00:51:36,950 --> 00:51:34,400
back that's lit up exactly

1193
00:51:38,630 --> 00:51:36,960
and that argument also by the way has

1194
00:51:39,910 --> 00:51:38,640
been challenged for

1195
00:51:42,309 --> 00:51:39,920
at least

1196
00:51:45,190 --> 00:51:42,319
two decades because you know in the

1197
00:51:47,510 --> 00:51:45,200
early 2000s i met engineers who were

1198
00:51:51,030 --> 00:51:47,520
talking about essentially

1199
00:51:53,349 --> 00:51:51,040
using a sonic membrane to provide a

1200
00:51:56,390 --> 00:51:53,359
vibrational field that would essentially

1201
00:51:58,630 --> 00:51:56,400
move any particles or matter out from

1202
00:51:59,910 --> 00:51:58,640
the front of the wake of a ship that is

1203
00:52:01,750 --> 00:51:59,920
trying to drive its way through

1204
00:52:04,390 --> 00:52:01,760
spacetime and they were you know working

1205
00:52:06,710 --> 00:52:04,400
on that back with like the earliest ion

1206
00:52:08,790 --> 00:52:06,720
engines and creating ion rockets and ion

1207
00:52:11,109 --> 00:52:08,800
thrusters attempting to do something

1208
00:52:12,230 --> 00:52:11,119
faster than nuclear or faster than you

1209
00:52:15,109 --> 00:52:12,240
know

1210
00:52:17,270 --> 00:52:15,119
lighting up dinosaur blood and

1211
00:52:20,309 --> 00:52:17,280
setting it on fire um

1212
00:52:23,349 --> 00:52:20,319
and so essentially you know

1213
00:52:25,829 --> 00:52:23,359
the idea that that you can

1214
00:52:28,710 --> 00:52:25,839
uh that essentially space time is full

1215
00:52:30,390 --> 00:52:28,720
of all this funk it's it's it's almost

1216
00:52:32,790 --> 00:52:30,400
it doesn't even matter

1217
00:52:34,390 --> 00:52:32,800
because you're still dealing with the

1218
00:52:36,230 --> 00:52:34,400
argument that you're pushing through

1219
00:52:39,349 --> 00:52:36,240
space-time and whether you're talking

1220
00:52:41,190 --> 00:52:39,359
about atomic mass in hydrogen atoms or

1221
00:52:43,349 --> 00:52:41,200
you're literally just talking about the

1222
00:52:46,150 --> 00:52:43,359
mass energy of the quantum vacuum of

1223
00:52:47,589 --> 00:52:46,160
space itself right you don't want to try

1224
00:52:50,710 --> 00:52:47,599
to push your way through it it's

1225
00:52:52,870 --> 00:52:50,720
ridiculous and yes you cannot accelerate

1226
00:52:56,150 --> 00:52:52,880
to the speed of light if you're pushing

1227
00:52:57,990 --> 00:52:56,160
through the fabric and so the solution

1228
00:53:02,390 --> 00:52:58,000
it happens to be

1229
00:53:05,190 --> 00:53:02,400
how do you reach a speed or get to some

1230
00:53:06,710 --> 00:53:05,200
position in space time without

1231
00:53:08,390 --> 00:53:06,720
accelerating

1232
00:53:11,109 --> 00:53:08,400
that's the question

1233
00:53:12,870 --> 00:53:11,119
you remove the space in between you you

1234
00:53:15,030 --> 00:53:12,880
remove the space in between you that's

1235
00:53:17,589 --> 00:53:15,040
the perfect way to look at it is jumping

1236
00:53:19,990 --> 00:53:17,599
but essentially to remove space in

1237
00:53:22,390 --> 00:53:20,000
between you and another location the

1238
00:53:24,630 --> 00:53:22,400
first thing you have to do is isolate

1239
00:53:26,549 --> 00:53:24,640
the space time around the mass energy of

1240
00:53:31,510 --> 00:53:26,559
the object that you're in

1241
00:53:33,190 --> 00:53:31,520
is in a gravitational pull right we are

1242
00:53:34,390 --> 00:53:33,200
experiencing it right now if i just let

1243
00:53:37,430 --> 00:53:34,400
my hand drop

1244
00:53:39,270 --> 00:53:37,440
i'm riding the gravitational well of the

1245
00:53:40,950 --> 00:53:39,280
earth towards the center of the earth

1246
00:53:43,430 --> 00:53:40,960
but it's not just the earth's field i'm

1247
00:53:45,829 --> 00:53:43,440
in i'm in the earth moon's gravitational

1248
00:53:48,309 --> 00:53:45,839
field that's shared i'm in the solar

1249
00:53:50,710 --> 00:53:48,319
system's gravitational well i'm in the

1250
00:53:52,870 --> 00:53:50,720
galaxy's gravitational well and i'm in

1251
00:53:55,430 --> 00:53:52,880
laniakea's gravitational well our

1252
00:53:57,430 --> 00:53:55,440
galactic cluster and that's probably

1253
00:53:59,589 --> 00:53:57,440
within an even larger you know super

1254
00:54:01,750 --> 00:53:59,599
super super duper cluster or universal

1255
00:54:04,870 --> 00:54:01,760
cluster right and so

1256
00:54:08,549 --> 00:54:04,880
essentially i need some way to separate

1257
00:54:11,510 --> 00:54:08,559
the mass energy of my body my craft from

1258
00:54:13,670 --> 00:54:11,520
the surrounding mass energy field

1259
00:54:15,910 --> 00:54:13,680
that is moving towards these

1260
00:54:18,630 --> 00:54:15,920
gravitational centers

1261
00:54:21,190 --> 00:54:18,640
and establish my own

1262
00:54:24,710 --> 00:54:21,200
sovereign space so to speak

1263
00:54:27,589 --> 00:54:24,720
and so the idea here is what happens if

1264
00:54:30,790 --> 00:54:27,599
you create a bubble around the craft

1265
00:54:33,670 --> 00:54:30,800
essentially creating a field

1266
00:54:35,990 --> 00:54:33,680
which establishes a boundary condition

1267
00:54:37,910 --> 00:54:36,000
between the inside of the craft and the

1268
00:54:40,230 --> 00:54:37,920
outside of the craft and that

1269
00:54:41,510 --> 00:54:40,240
essentially divides the fabric of

1270
00:54:44,069 --> 00:54:41,520
space-time

1271
00:54:46,309 --> 00:54:44,079
from what's going on inside of the ship

1272
00:54:47,670 --> 00:54:46,319
and what's going on outside of the ship

1273
00:54:51,109 --> 00:54:47,680
and then

1274
00:54:53,510 --> 00:54:51,119
there's no longer this kind of continuum

1275
00:54:56,230 --> 00:54:53,520
of the space-time lattice

1276
00:54:59,030 --> 00:54:56,240
that's intersecting into the mass of the

1277
00:55:01,430 --> 00:54:59,040
craft because when it's intersecting

1278
00:55:03,829 --> 00:55:01,440
you've got to push through it right it's

1279
00:55:06,230 --> 00:55:03,839
pulling and pushing it's like

1280
00:55:08,549 --> 00:55:06,240
you can think of the idea as friction

1281
00:55:11,910 --> 00:55:08,559
but we're not talking about friction

1282
00:55:13,829 --> 00:55:11,920
at a molecular level or an atomic level

1283
00:55:15,510 --> 00:55:13,839
we're talking about friction at the

1284
00:55:17,190 --> 00:55:15,520
level of the quantum vacuum of

1285
00:55:20,230 --> 00:55:17,200
space-time itself

1286
00:55:22,710 --> 00:55:20,240
so it's removing the mass energy charge

1287
00:55:25,109 --> 00:55:22,720
connection that exists between the craft

1288
00:55:27,829 --> 00:55:25,119
and its surroundings

1289
00:55:30,870 --> 00:55:27,839
crazy jimmy accept that

1290
00:55:33,430 --> 00:55:30,880
it turns out that if you follow the

1291
00:55:34,470 --> 00:55:33,440
physics of unified physics and you look

1292
00:55:37,589 --> 00:55:34,480
at

1293
00:55:40,470 --> 00:55:37,599
and you consider

1294
00:55:42,870 --> 00:55:40,480
the reality of what's going on in

1295
00:55:44,549 --> 00:55:42,880
protons and neutrons and electrons and

1296
00:55:47,270 --> 00:55:44,559
how all of this stuff is made how the

1297
00:55:50,069 --> 00:55:47,280
heck is matter and mass and coffee and

1298
00:55:52,150 --> 00:55:50,079
all these things actually exist well

1299
00:55:54,390 --> 00:55:52,160
if you take the work of brilliant

1300
00:55:57,910 --> 00:55:54,400
scientists like nassim harriman

1301
00:55:59,349 --> 00:55:57,920
that postulated that the proton is a

1302
00:56:02,150 --> 00:55:59,359
miniature black hole it's a

1303
00:56:04,630 --> 00:56:02,160
schwarzschild proton in other words the

1304
00:56:06,710 --> 00:56:04,640
proton obeys the schwarzschild condition

1305
00:56:09,990 --> 00:56:06,720
and its charge radius

1306
00:56:12,390 --> 00:56:10,000
is actually the edge of an event horizon

1307
00:56:14,710 --> 00:56:12,400
for this small miniature black hole

1308
00:56:17,349 --> 00:56:14,720
and when you do this

1309
00:56:19,990 --> 00:56:17,359
suddenly the proton fits into a perfect

1310
00:56:21,750 --> 00:56:20,000
mass energy scale or relationship from

1311
00:56:24,150 --> 00:56:21,760
everything that's small to everything

1312
00:56:26,390 --> 00:56:24,160
that's large when you do this all the

1313
00:56:28,950 --> 00:56:26,400
sudden all these quantum gravity

1314
00:56:30,630 --> 00:56:28,960
equations just work they just work all

1315
00:56:33,030 --> 00:56:30,640
of a sudden you suddenly have an

1316
00:56:34,630 --> 00:56:33,040
explanation for the strong force it's

1317
00:56:37,190 --> 00:56:34,640
just gravity

1318
00:56:39,510 --> 00:56:37,200
you suddenly have all of these other

1319
00:56:41,190 --> 00:56:39,520
theoretical conclusions that open up

1320
00:56:43,349 --> 00:56:41,200
that a lot of my work is based on which

1321
00:56:45,109 --> 00:56:43,359
is the sort of quantum geometric

1322
00:56:48,150 --> 00:56:45,119
mechanics of what's happening at space

1323
00:56:50,150 --> 00:56:48,160
time and what you realize and i know

1324
00:56:51,589 --> 00:56:50,160
i've kind of gone on to some really deep

1325
00:56:53,430 --> 00:56:51,599
stuff here for your audience but i'm

1326
00:56:54,150 --> 00:56:53,440
gonna bring it home i promise stick with

1327
00:56:57,109 --> 00:56:54,160
me

1328
00:56:59,030 --> 00:56:57,119
what we've essentially realized is that

1329
00:57:01,109 --> 00:56:59,040
protons

1330
00:57:02,870 --> 00:57:01,119
do this already

1331
00:57:05,030 --> 00:57:02,880
protons are

1332
00:57:08,470 --> 00:57:05,040
miniature spaceships

1333
00:57:09,829 --> 00:57:08,480
they have a field that at its event

1334
00:57:12,870 --> 00:57:09,839
horizon

1335
00:57:14,230 --> 00:57:12,880
is creating a spin that is reaching the

1336
00:57:17,990 --> 00:57:14,240
speed of light

1337
00:57:20,390 --> 00:57:18,000
in a rotary spin form and because

1338
00:57:23,430 --> 00:57:20,400
somehow the event horizon the literally

1339
00:57:24,470 --> 00:57:23,440
the radius of the charge of this proton

1340
00:57:27,990 --> 00:57:24,480
structure

1341
00:57:31,190 --> 00:57:28,000
is going at c at the speed of light

1342
00:57:34,710 --> 00:57:31,200
that is a moment where suddenly

1343
00:57:35,829 --> 00:57:34,720
now that proton has created a shearing

1344
00:57:38,309 --> 00:57:35,839
condition

1345
00:57:39,990 --> 00:57:38,319
that separates it at the equator from

1346
00:57:41,190 --> 00:57:40,000
the rest of the surrounding space-time

1347
00:57:43,109 --> 00:57:41,200
fabric

1348
00:57:44,470 --> 00:57:43,119
and it's able to spin at the speed of

1349
00:57:45,510 --> 00:57:44,480
light and

1350
00:57:47,750 --> 00:57:45,520
you know

1351
00:57:49,430 --> 00:57:47,760
something quite magical about that is

1352
00:57:51,829 --> 00:57:49,440
that they say that when you go the speed

1353
00:57:54,150 --> 00:57:51,839
of light time stops right

1354
00:57:57,030 --> 00:57:54,160
that's right you've now time is no

1355
00:58:00,470 --> 00:57:57,040
longer exists at that speed

1356
00:58:03,349 --> 00:58:00,480
right we have literally never in the

1357
00:58:04,630 --> 00:58:03,359
history of mankind and never will i

1358
00:58:07,349 --> 00:58:04,640
guarantee it

1359
00:58:09,750 --> 00:58:07,359
ever seen a proton

1360
00:58:13,109 --> 00:58:09,760
decay

1361
00:58:15,670 --> 00:58:13,119
seconds

1362
00:58:17,430 --> 00:58:15,680
everything else quarks leptons you name

1363
00:58:19,670 --> 00:58:17,440
it all these other like fundamental

1364
00:58:22,390 --> 00:58:19,680
particles you pick one anywhere out

1365
00:58:24,950 --> 00:58:22,400
there they all decay like

1366
00:58:26,950 --> 00:58:24,960
you know usually in split seconds

1367
00:58:29,349 --> 00:58:26,960
but the proton

1368
00:58:32,630 --> 00:58:29,359
we we estimate that a single proton

1369
00:58:34,870 --> 00:58:32,640
lasts over four times the lifetime of

1370
00:58:36,630 --> 00:58:34,880
our entire universe and how do we know

1371
00:58:39,510 --> 00:58:36,640
that well we don't

1372
00:58:42,710 --> 00:58:39,520
because we've only lived one universe

1373
00:58:44,549 --> 00:58:42,720
but we postulate that protons never die

1374
00:58:52,230 --> 00:58:44,559
they go on forever

1375
00:58:54,950 --> 00:58:52,240
at the speed of light

1376
00:58:57,910 --> 00:58:54,960
and when we treat when we deal with a

1377
00:58:59,750 --> 00:58:57,920
hydrogen atom which is floating around

1378
00:59:01,349 --> 00:58:59,760
in the space all around me i've got

1379
00:59:03,270 --> 00:59:01,359
hydrogen atoms all over the place and

1380
00:59:05,829 --> 00:59:03,280
nitrogen you know these little hydrogen

1381
00:59:08,069 --> 00:59:05,839
atoms are essentially like a proton

1382
00:59:10,309 --> 00:59:08,079
spinning with a little electrical charge

1383
00:59:12,470 --> 00:59:10,319
bundle around it it's like literally a

1384
00:59:14,870 --> 00:59:12,480
spinning field of charge

1385
00:59:17,349 --> 00:59:14,880
and it's floating around in the space

1386
00:59:19,109 --> 00:59:17,359
and it's so extremely light that the

1387
00:59:21,270 --> 00:59:19,119
earth's gravity doesn't even pull it

1388
00:59:23,190 --> 00:59:21,280
down you know it takes being close to

1389
00:59:25,829 --> 00:59:23,200
the center of the sun

1390
00:59:28,230 --> 00:59:25,839
for there to be enough gravity to pull

1391
00:59:30,150 --> 00:59:28,240
hydrogen atoms down and not only pull

1392
00:59:32,470 --> 00:59:30,160
them down but fuse them together and

1393
00:59:35,349 --> 00:59:32,480
turn them into helium atoms right

1394
00:59:37,750 --> 00:59:35,359
and so so essentially

1395
00:59:40,470 --> 00:59:37,760
each of these little hydrogen atoms

1396
00:59:42,549 --> 00:59:40,480
we also recognize that the mass energy

1397
00:59:45,430 --> 00:59:42,559
inside that hydrogen atom if it's

1398
00:59:47,190 --> 00:59:45,440
actually a black hole which nuclear

1399
00:59:50,390 --> 00:59:47,200
physics tells us

1400
00:59:52,789 --> 00:59:50,400
that these little atoms have huge

1401
00:59:55,589 --> 00:59:52,799
amounts of energy in them i mean

1402
00:59:56,870 --> 00:59:55,599
nuclear fusion like separating two

1403
01:00:00,309 --> 00:59:56,880
protons

1404
01:00:02,789 --> 01:00:00,319
good god it's an atomic bomb using

1405
01:00:04,950 --> 01:00:02,799
fusing two hydrogen atoms you get the

1406
01:00:08,309 --> 01:00:04,960
sun

1407
01:00:11,270 --> 01:00:08,319
right and so this huge energy should be

1408
01:00:13,430 --> 01:00:11,280
extremely heavy jimmy but it's not

1409
01:00:15,190 --> 01:00:13,440
let's take our light we got to take a

1410
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break right here our guest tonight adam

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apollo we are discussing the physics of

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an extraterrestrial civilization all of

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that and much more this is fade to black

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all right welcome back fade to black i

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am your host jimmy church tonight adam

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apollo is with us we're talking about

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the

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physics

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of an extraterrestrial civilization and

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01:05:53,670 --> 01:05:50,880
a great conversation

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uh so far with adam and adam

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um i wanted to

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go back to the point that you made

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01:06:03,750 --> 01:06:01,520
earlier started to about this uh this

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bubble this gravitational

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thing that would happen on uh

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around

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an alien e.t

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advanced spacecraft what would happen

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01:06:20,950 --> 01:06:18,160
to time in said bubble

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oh you need to unmute hold on

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adam you've got to unmute yourself i got

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it thanks jimmy

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i was just uh holding it quiet for the

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commercial break there so

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um

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yeah essentially jimmy uh what occurs is

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that when you are

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relative to any other surrounding space

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01:06:45,670 --> 01:06:42,000
time goes normally as long as you're

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experiencing space time around you

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01:06:51,190 --> 01:06:48,559
time is going to proceed normally within

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the context of your own space now

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01:06:55,990 --> 01:06:53,440
something that's very interesting and

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01:06:59,029 --> 01:06:56,000
special about the idea of creating this

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01:07:01,069 --> 01:06:59,039
kind of quantum envelope around a craft

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01:07:04,309 --> 01:07:01,079
is that because you're not

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accelerating and warping space time

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around the craft when you move or when

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you jump you don't have time dilation

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time dilation which is the concept that

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01:07:19,270 --> 01:07:17,039
we hear a lot about and hawking talked

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about and you know neil degrasse tyson

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talks about in his shows where it's like

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yeah if you speed up and you accelerate

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almost to the speed of light going to

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another star even if you could

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accelerate to pretty much almost the

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speed of light and that star is say 10

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light years away

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then

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to get there and get back even if you

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are going almost the speed of light you

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might experience the trip taking 20

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minutes

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but back at home

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20 years have passed

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and that is because you are literally

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dilating the structure of space-time by

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warping the fabric around you through

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acceleration so your relative time

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experience becomes dilated

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now if you don't warp space time like

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that and you create this self-contained

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time capsule so to speak around your

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01:08:14,230 --> 01:08:11,599
craft you and everybody else on the ship

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experience time normally and all of the

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surrounding space time experiences time

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normally you jump to another star system

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and you literally arrive at the same

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time you left

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so there's no time dilation problems in

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this particular format are are you

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describing

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uh

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is this a version of that no

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no the alcubierre drive is is a

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particularly interesting

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01:08:47,990 --> 01:08:44,960
approach to this problem and the

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01:08:51,590 --> 01:08:48,000
alcubierre drive essentially is saying

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that if we had the right kind of matter

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or the right kind of space-time warping

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engines

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01:08:59,829 --> 01:08:58,000
you could essentially take space between

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you and a distant point you're trying to

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get to

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and contract that space

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so that you're closer to where you're

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trying to get to and behind you

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01:09:13,110 --> 01:09:09,359
in the direction you're not going you're

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01:09:15,590 --> 01:09:13,120
expanding that space out

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01:09:17,669 --> 01:09:15,600
it's a cut and splice more or less right

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01:09:20,149 --> 01:09:17,679
so you're cutting this the space in

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01:09:22,229 --> 01:09:20,159
front of you and putting it behind you

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01:09:24,870 --> 01:09:22,239
in real time well it's not it's not

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01:09:27,829 --> 01:09:24,880
actually cutting any space time it's

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01:09:30,630 --> 01:09:27,839
just the idea is just contracting

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01:09:33,349 --> 01:09:30,640
space between you and a destination and

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01:09:35,990 --> 01:09:33,359
expanding the space between you and the

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01:09:37,590 --> 01:09:36,000
place that you originated and this

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01:09:39,669 --> 01:09:37,600
bypasses

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01:09:42,470 --> 01:09:39,679
this is one of the kind of theoretical

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01:09:44,470 --> 01:09:42,480
methods of bypassing the problem of

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01:09:47,110 --> 01:09:44,480
acceleration to the speed of light

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01:09:49,269 --> 01:09:47,120
because the idea is if you just contract

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01:09:51,910 --> 01:09:49,279
the distance then you haven't really

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01:09:54,630 --> 01:09:51,920
violated this physics problem

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01:09:56,709 --> 01:09:54,640
you're you're get closer to the to the

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01:09:58,070 --> 01:09:56,719
place you're trying to get to and so

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01:09:59,910 --> 01:09:58,080
potentially

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01:10:03,030 --> 01:09:59,920
even if you're not going the speed of

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01:10:05,350 --> 01:10:03,040
light you could be experienced as moving

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01:10:07,110 --> 01:10:05,360
through space at closer to the speed of

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01:10:09,110 --> 01:10:07,120
light or at beyond the speed of light

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01:10:13,350 --> 01:10:09,120
potentially um

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01:10:14,229 --> 01:10:13,360
didn't um alcubierre uh back pedal

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01:10:16,870 --> 01:10:14,239
um

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01:10:20,390 --> 01:10:16,880
he backpedaled because not that the

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01:10:22,950 --> 01:10:20,400
design itself or the idea behind it

1631
01:10:25,510 --> 01:10:22,960
uh wasn't sound it was the amount of

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01:10:28,149 --> 01:10:25,520
energy that it would take for this

1633
01:10:30,709 --> 01:10:28,159
process to take place which would be

1634
01:10:33,669 --> 01:10:30,719
all of the energy in the known universe

1635
01:10:35,350 --> 01:10:33,679
not quite not quite that level but but

1636
01:10:36,630 --> 01:10:35,360
essentially yes essentially we're

1637
01:10:39,189 --> 01:10:36,640
talking about

1638
01:10:41,510 --> 01:10:39,199
needing to have some kind of

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01:10:42,870 --> 01:10:41,520
specialized material

1640
01:10:45,270 --> 01:10:42,880
that essentially

1641
01:10:47,590 --> 01:10:45,280
stretches and contracts space-time at

1642
01:10:49,590 --> 01:10:47,600
vast scales right

1643
01:10:52,790 --> 01:10:49,600
and and the idea here

1644
01:10:55,189 --> 01:10:52,800
by the way is again way way less

1645
01:10:57,270 --> 01:10:55,199
efficient than what i'm proposing

1646
01:11:00,470 --> 01:10:57,280
because you're trying to literally take

1647
01:11:03,910 --> 01:11:00,480
a massive array of space-time going into

1648
01:11:06,630 --> 01:11:03,920
the distance and cause a change in that

1649
01:11:08,229 --> 01:11:06,640
entire quantum fabric relative to the

1650
01:11:10,229 --> 01:11:08,239
ship i mean we don't even know what

1651
01:11:11,270 --> 01:11:10,239
other kinds of problems that could cause

1652
01:11:13,350 --> 01:11:11,280
by the way

1653
01:11:15,750 --> 01:11:13,360
you know it's it's that's like that's

1654
01:11:18,950 --> 01:11:15,760
like reaching out your arm a hundred

1655
01:11:21,910 --> 01:11:18,960
miles and you know and trying to like

1656
01:11:24,310 --> 01:11:21,920
move a a big brick that's like a hundred

1657
01:11:26,790 --> 01:11:24,320
miles away with your arm outstretched

1658
01:11:28,790 --> 01:11:26,800
like the the efficiency is just not

1659
01:11:31,270 --> 01:11:28,800
there in that approach

1660
01:11:32,550 --> 01:11:31,280
now when you describe

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01:11:35,590 --> 01:11:32,560
jumping

1662
01:11:38,310 --> 01:11:35,600
and it's not a warp drive process even

1663
01:11:39,910 --> 01:11:38,320
though al qubier did uh describe a

1664
01:11:41,910 --> 01:11:39,920
bubble that would have to be around the

1665
01:11:43,510 --> 01:11:41,920
craft you would be inside of this

1666
01:11:45,430 --> 01:11:43,520
protecting yourself as this whole

1667
01:11:46,550 --> 01:11:45,440
product but you're saying

1668
01:11:48,550 --> 01:11:46,560
uh

1669
01:11:50,470 --> 01:11:48,560
you have the bubble but we're not

1670
01:11:52,470 --> 01:11:50,480
talking about the warp drive process

1671
01:11:54,470 --> 01:11:52,480
when you say jump

1672
01:11:57,110 --> 01:11:54,480
how does this occur are you folding

1673
01:11:59,750 --> 01:11:57,120
space how are you jumping from point to

1674
01:12:00,950 --> 01:11:59,760
point yeah this is a big one and this is

1675
01:12:03,110 --> 01:12:00,960
one that's

1676
01:12:04,310 --> 01:12:03,120
core to a lot of my theoretical work in

1677
01:12:05,910 --> 01:12:04,320
this space

1678
01:12:08,630 --> 01:12:05,920
and essentially

1679
01:12:12,390 --> 01:12:08,640
i studied uh a whole sequence of

1680
01:12:15,030 --> 01:12:12,400
different approaches and theoretical um

1681
01:12:17,510 --> 01:12:15,040
observations as far as

1682
01:12:19,990 --> 01:12:17,520
einsteinian physics and unified physics

1683
01:12:23,110 --> 01:12:20,000
and quantum gravity and looking at you

1684
01:12:25,430 --> 01:12:23,120
know what does it take to to contain

1685
01:12:27,830 --> 01:12:25,440
space-time and what does a sustainable

1686
01:12:29,990 --> 01:12:27,840
space-time container actually look like

1687
01:12:32,390 --> 01:12:30,000
and essentially there are two

1688
01:12:34,149 --> 01:12:32,400
uh there are two theoretical models that

1689
01:12:36,790 --> 01:12:34,159
are kind of the more well-known ones

1690
01:12:39,350 --> 01:12:36,800
that talk about this kind of approach

1691
01:12:41,990 --> 01:12:39,360
and one of them is called creating a ctc

1692
01:12:43,750 --> 01:12:42,000
a closed time-like curve and that's the

1693
01:12:46,550 --> 01:12:43,760
idea where you're literally

1694
01:12:48,550 --> 01:12:46,560
warping space-time into this sort of

1695
01:12:50,390 --> 01:12:48,560
bubble-like format

1696
01:12:53,350 --> 01:12:50,400
and essentially expecting

1697
01:12:56,550 --> 01:12:53,360
that that that can be sustained and now

1698
01:12:59,510 --> 01:12:56,560
you've kind of uh pulled space-time into

1699
01:13:00,709 --> 01:12:59,520
this structure that's necessary for you

1700
01:13:02,470 --> 01:13:00,719
to

1701
01:13:05,110 --> 01:13:02,480
achieve some operation and this is kind

1702
01:13:07,030 --> 01:13:05,120
of built off of the akubi air drive and

1703
01:13:09,189 --> 01:13:07,040
the warp drive idea you can contract

1704
01:13:11,669 --> 01:13:09,199
space you can expand space you can pull

1705
01:13:14,630 --> 01:13:11,679
space around a craft making a bubble

1706
01:13:16,630 --> 01:13:14,640
happen right it's all pretty like still

1707
01:13:19,590 --> 01:13:16,640
hard physics as you would say like kind

1708
01:13:22,229 --> 01:13:19,600
of like exploding a rocket behind you

1709
01:13:24,470 --> 01:13:22,239
but then there's another perspective and

1710
01:13:25,590 --> 01:13:24,480
this is called a circulating light beam

1711
01:13:26,390 --> 01:13:25,600
approach

1712
01:13:28,390 --> 01:13:26,400
and

1713
01:13:31,990 --> 01:13:28,400
the circulating light beam approach

1714
01:13:34,950 --> 01:13:32,000
initially was based on the idea that

1715
01:13:37,350 --> 01:13:34,960
certain kinds of lasers when pulsed at

1716
01:13:40,630 --> 01:13:37,360
the right frequencies and in the right

1717
01:13:42,390 --> 01:13:40,640
formats seem to have an effect on the

1718
01:13:44,950 --> 01:13:42,400
space-time structure

1719
01:13:47,830 --> 01:13:44,960
between them right and

1720
01:13:50,149 --> 01:13:47,840
and this was like early experimental uh

1721
01:13:52,630 --> 01:13:50,159
evidence that suggested

1722
01:13:55,189 --> 01:13:52,640
that light and space-time can have a

1723
01:13:57,910 --> 01:13:55,199
resonance with each other right and and

1724
01:14:00,070 --> 01:13:57,920
in fact if you really get into unified

1725
01:14:01,990 --> 01:14:00,080
physics and quantum mechanics what you

1726
01:14:04,229 --> 01:14:02,000
realize is that everything is made of

1727
01:14:06,390 --> 01:14:04,239
light anyway space-time is made of light

1728
01:14:08,630 --> 01:14:06,400
you know plonk spherical unit is a

1729
01:14:10,950 --> 01:14:08,640
schwarzschild bundle of light

1730
01:14:12,149 --> 01:14:10,960
interconnected in a lattice and protons

1731
01:14:13,430 --> 01:14:12,159
and neutrons and everything else are

1732
01:14:16,149 --> 01:14:13,440
literally just

1733
01:14:18,229 --> 01:14:16,159
space-time light bent into different

1734
01:14:21,110 --> 01:14:18,239
formats and so

1735
01:14:23,910 --> 01:14:21,120
the idea here is that light and gravity

1736
01:14:26,870 --> 01:14:23,920
have a resonance now a couple of guys

1737
01:14:27,750 --> 01:14:26,880
roger shoyer and a few other gentlemen

1738
01:14:31,430 --> 01:14:27,760
um

1739
01:14:33,590 --> 01:14:31,440
created this particular kind of drive uh

1740
01:14:36,870 --> 01:14:33,600
that's called the m drive also known as

1741
01:14:38,950 --> 01:14:36,880
the canay drive and this drive

1742
01:14:42,390 --> 01:14:38,960
essentially is just a

1743
01:14:44,630 --> 01:14:42,400
you know a koenig like craft

1744
01:14:48,149 --> 01:14:44,640
a tube and inside

1745
01:14:50,790 --> 01:14:48,159
is fired microwave frequency light

1746
01:14:53,430 --> 01:14:50,800
and the microwave frequency light

1747
01:14:54,790 --> 01:14:53,440
causes this object to propel itself

1748
01:14:56,709 --> 01:14:54,800
through space

1749
01:15:00,149 --> 01:14:56,719
without any thrust

1750
01:15:02,709 --> 01:15:00,159
nothing's pushing out the back jimmy and

1751
01:15:04,550 --> 01:15:02,719
the physicists who saw this and this is

1752
01:15:07,350 --> 01:15:04,560
well proven science

1753
01:15:08,229 --> 01:15:07,360
some of the best descriptions of this

1754
01:15:11,189 --> 01:15:08,239
say

1755
01:15:13,350 --> 01:15:11,199
that it is very likely it appears very

1756
01:15:15,990 --> 01:15:13,360
likely that we figured out some

1757
01:15:18,390 --> 01:15:16,000
mechanism where light has a resonance

1758
01:15:21,590 --> 01:15:18,400
with the quantum fabric of space-time

1759
01:15:22,550 --> 01:15:21,600
and this is causing the light to push

1760
01:15:24,470 --> 01:15:22,560
against

1761
01:15:27,270 --> 01:15:24,480
this quantum field

1762
01:15:29,110 --> 01:15:27,280
that exists in space right

1763
01:15:30,229 --> 01:15:29,120
to cause this thing to move

1764
01:15:32,550 --> 01:15:30,239
now

1765
01:15:34,630 --> 01:15:32,560
we can take those ideas and we can say

1766
01:15:37,510 --> 01:15:34,640
okay well what if

1767
01:15:39,430 --> 01:15:37,520
you could create a type of ring system

1768
01:15:41,110 --> 01:15:39,440
this is my approach is that if you take

1769
01:15:43,430 --> 01:15:41,120
a ring system

1770
01:15:47,030 --> 01:15:43,440
and essentially you create a standing

1771
01:15:50,470 --> 01:15:47,040
wave vibrational field that is in

1772
01:15:52,310 --> 01:15:50,480
direct harmonic intersection with the

1773
01:15:54,950 --> 01:15:52,320
structural geometry of the way that

1774
01:15:57,350 --> 01:15:54,960
space-time fabric is set up you could

1775
01:15:59,669 --> 01:15:57,360
essentially create a field where

1776
01:16:02,070 --> 01:15:59,679
space-time is sheared where there's

1777
01:16:04,550 --> 01:16:02,080
literally a division between the

1778
01:16:05,910 --> 01:16:04,560
internal and the external space-time

1779
01:16:07,270 --> 01:16:05,920
around this craft which is what i was

1780
01:16:07,990 --> 01:16:07,280
talking about earlier make a bubble

1781
01:16:10,390 --> 01:16:08,000
right

1782
01:16:12,390 --> 01:16:10,400
okay with this complex ring system

1783
01:16:13,990 --> 01:16:12,400
and you do it with them spinning and you

1784
01:16:16,950 --> 01:16:14,000
know these particular lasers that

1785
01:16:18,310 --> 01:16:16,960
interface with the geometry of space

1786
01:16:20,470 --> 01:16:18,320
you know they're going off at the

1787
01:16:22,870 --> 01:16:20,480
resonant frequency of space so you're

1788
01:16:25,189 --> 01:16:22,880
creating an artificial standing field

1789
01:16:26,149 --> 01:16:25,199
the way that a proton creates a standing

1790
01:16:28,229 --> 01:16:26,159
field

1791
01:16:29,990 --> 01:16:28,239
and then the question is how the heck

1792
01:16:31,430 --> 01:16:30,000
does that thing move

1793
01:16:33,590 --> 01:16:31,440
and where does it you know where does it

1794
01:16:35,669 --> 01:16:33,600
go how do you pilot this thing you know

1795
01:16:37,590 --> 01:16:35,679
you've now separated outside space-time

1796
01:16:40,390 --> 01:16:37,600
from inside space-time which is what it

1797
01:16:42,470 --> 01:16:40,400
looks like all of these ships are doing

1798
01:16:45,110 --> 01:16:42,480
and what my galactic friends absolutely

1799
01:16:46,310 --> 01:16:45,120
say they're doing where they can turn 90

1800
01:16:47,750 --> 01:16:46,320
degrees

1801
01:16:51,189 --> 01:16:47,760
no g-force

1802
01:16:52,630 --> 01:16:51,199
they can literally fly into a mountain

1803
01:16:55,030 --> 01:16:52,640
no impact

1804
01:16:58,229 --> 01:16:55,040
because they're literally operating in a

1805
01:16:59,830 --> 01:16:58,239
craft that essentially has removed its

1806
01:17:00,870 --> 01:16:59,840
interconnection with the surrounding

1807
01:17:02,870 --> 01:17:00,880
space

1808
01:17:04,149 --> 01:17:02,880
almost like it's in a different

1809
01:17:05,830 --> 01:17:04,159
dimension

1810
01:17:08,390 --> 01:17:05,840
right and we have all these people who

1811
01:17:10,310 --> 01:17:08,400
talk about these beings must be next

1812
01:17:12,470 --> 01:17:10,320
other dimensional fifth dimensional or

1813
01:17:14,390 --> 01:17:12,480
higher dimensional because it seems like

1814
01:17:17,350 --> 01:17:14,400
they can do things that aren't possible

1815
01:17:20,070 --> 01:17:17,360
in our physics well it turns out it is

1816
01:17:21,830 --> 01:17:20,080
possible in our physics if we leverage

1817
01:17:23,910 --> 01:17:21,840
this kind of approach

1818
01:17:25,750 --> 01:17:23,920
so anyway how does this thing jump to

1819
01:17:27,030 --> 01:17:25,760
another place in the galaxy

1820
01:17:29,189 --> 01:17:27,040
well

1821
01:17:33,910 --> 01:17:29,199
do you know much about stars jimmy

1822
01:17:37,030 --> 01:17:33,920
i i i can fake it really well

1823
01:17:38,070 --> 01:17:37,040
i'm sure you can i can i can

1824
01:17:40,470 --> 01:17:38,080
well

1825
01:17:41,910 --> 01:17:40,480
my knowledge is smoke and mirrors

1826
01:17:43,990 --> 01:17:41,920
but to

1827
01:17:46,709 --> 01:17:44,000
play guitars yeah yeah to the

1828
01:17:49,430 --> 01:17:46,719
uninitiated i seem pretty smart but yeah

1829
01:17:51,669 --> 01:17:49,440
i have a fundamental understanding of of

1830
01:17:53,350 --> 01:17:51,679
stars yeah yeah i figure you did i i've

1831
01:17:55,270 --> 01:17:53,360
heard you talk to some some smart

1832
01:17:57,430 --> 01:17:55,280
physicists and ask some really damn good

1833
01:18:00,470 --> 01:17:57,440
questions so um

1834
01:18:01,910 --> 01:18:00,480
so stars as you probably know jimmy

1835
01:18:05,910 --> 01:18:01,920
every star

1836
01:18:07,990 --> 01:18:05,920
has a different particular frequency set

1837
01:18:11,430 --> 01:18:08,000
so every star is made of a different

1838
01:18:13,669 --> 01:18:11,440
composite of materials and all those

1839
01:18:16,070 --> 01:18:13,679
materials are burning and just like when

1840
01:18:18,630 --> 01:18:16,080
you're in chemistry class in high school

1841
01:18:21,830 --> 01:18:18,640
or wherever you know college maybe and

1842
01:18:23,910 --> 01:18:21,840
you're you know setting elements on fire

1843
01:18:25,270 --> 01:18:23,920
using the little gas torch and boy i had

1844
01:18:27,350 --> 01:18:25,280
some fun with that in high school let me

1845
01:18:28,950 --> 01:18:27,360
tell you when the professor would leave

1846
01:18:31,590 --> 01:18:28,960
the room um

1847
01:18:33,350 --> 01:18:31,600
but when you burn different elements

1848
01:18:36,229 --> 01:18:33,360
they burn at different colors

1849
01:18:38,550 --> 01:18:36,239
and so when we look at stars and take

1850
01:18:40,709 --> 01:18:38,560
pictures of stars we can essentially

1851
01:18:42,709 --> 01:18:40,719
know what they're made of

1852
01:18:44,630 --> 01:18:42,719
and every star

1853
01:18:46,310 --> 01:18:44,640
has its own

1854
01:18:47,750 --> 01:18:46,320
exactly

1855
01:18:51,189 --> 01:18:47,760
individual

1856
01:18:53,270 --> 01:18:51,199
dna so to speak of frequencies

1857
01:18:54,870 --> 01:18:53,280
every star has a different spectral

1858
01:18:56,870 --> 01:18:54,880
frequency set

1859
01:18:59,590 --> 01:18:56,880
and so stars

1860
01:19:01,990 --> 01:18:59,600
wherever they are they all have

1861
01:19:05,510 --> 01:19:02,000
their own particular vibrational

1862
01:19:09,750 --> 01:19:05,520
interaction of light with space time

1863
01:19:14,470 --> 01:19:11,590
those of you that are listening in you

1864
01:19:17,030 --> 01:19:14,480
may you know want to you know chime in

1865
01:19:20,550 --> 01:19:17,040
on this fact and be like ah but

1866
01:19:22,390 --> 01:19:20,560
however adam apollo you know there are

1867
01:19:24,070 --> 01:19:22,400
these stars that you're talking about if

1868
01:19:26,470 --> 01:19:24,080
we're talking about the pleiades you

1869
01:19:28,310 --> 01:19:26,480
know that's 400 light years away if we

1870
01:19:30,790 --> 01:19:28,320
point to some of the stars that you can

1871
01:19:31,990 --> 01:19:30,800
see in the night sky around the galaxy

1872
01:19:34,550 --> 01:19:32,000
we're talking

1873
01:19:36,790 --> 01:19:34,560
thousands of light years away to ten

1874
01:19:39,350 --> 01:19:36,800
thousands of light years away and isn't

1875
01:19:41,750 --> 01:19:39,360
it true adam apollo that the light

1876
01:19:44,709 --> 01:19:41,760
frequencies of those stars will change

1877
01:19:46,950 --> 01:19:44,719
over time because they burn through

1878
01:19:49,350 --> 01:19:46,960
their gases right the more hydrogen

1879
01:19:51,510 --> 01:19:49,360
becomes helium helium burns out you know

1880
01:19:54,149 --> 01:19:51,520
it goes through its life cycle

1881
01:19:56,310 --> 01:19:54,159
and so if we're seeing a star

1882
01:19:58,070 --> 01:19:56,320
it's in a different position than it is

1883
01:19:59,669 --> 01:19:58,080
right now for sure

1884
01:20:02,870 --> 01:19:59,679
so we have to know where it's going to

1885
01:20:04,310 --> 01:20:02,880
be you know 10 000 years from now

1886
01:20:06,149 --> 01:20:04,320
essentially because it's taking that

1887
01:20:07,990 --> 01:20:06,159
long for the light to travel to us

1888
01:20:09,030 --> 01:20:08,000
because we're looking at it 10 000 years

1889
01:20:10,229 --> 01:20:09,040
ago

1890
01:20:11,990 --> 01:20:10,239
and

1891
01:20:14,709 --> 01:20:12,000
it's going to go through a spectral

1892
01:20:16,470 --> 01:20:14,719
change and so i say yep you're right

1893
01:20:18,390 --> 01:20:16,480
that's a big problem

1894
01:20:21,350 --> 01:20:18,400
but you're not accounting for one

1895
01:20:22,950 --> 01:20:21,360
particular type of star what's that and

1896
01:20:24,950 --> 01:20:22,960
that type of star

1897
01:20:28,070 --> 01:20:24,960
is the pulsar

1898
01:20:31,669 --> 01:20:28,080
pulsars neutron stars

1899
01:20:32,629 --> 01:20:31,679
essentially this type of star

1900
01:20:33,990 --> 01:20:32,639
has

1901
01:20:36,870 --> 01:20:34,000
a very

1902
01:20:39,110 --> 01:20:36,880
perfect sequenced beat pattern

1903
01:20:40,790 --> 01:20:39,120
and that beat pattern is so precise

1904
01:20:43,990 --> 01:20:40,800
because it's spinning and it's creating

1905
01:20:45,669 --> 01:20:44,000
a magnetic wave as it spins it's like a

1906
01:20:49,669 --> 01:20:45,679
lighthouse

1907
01:20:52,310 --> 01:20:49,679
sweeping its energy pattern

1908
01:20:55,510 --> 01:20:52,320
in different directions as it spins

1909
01:20:57,990 --> 01:20:55,520
we can tell in 5000 years

1910
01:21:00,229 --> 01:20:58,000
or a thousand years from now exactly

1911
01:21:02,470 --> 01:21:00,239
what its beat pattern will be because it

1912
01:21:03,990 --> 01:21:02,480
has a perfectly measurable fall off when

1913
01:21:05,590 --> 01:21:04,000
we measured these over years and years

1914
01:21:08,310 --> 01:21:05,600
and years right

1915
01:21:10,950 --> 01:21:08,320
and their frequencies don't change the

1916
01:21:12,550 --> 01:21:10,960
spectral frequencies don't change and so

1917
01:21:14,390 --> 01:21:12,560
then all we're left to do is to know

1918
01:21:16,709 --> 01:21:14,400
where they end up and there's already

1919
01:21:19,510 --> 01:21:16,719
been incredible stellar mapping

1920
01:21:21,910 --> 01:21:19,520
technologies that can show us exactly

1921
01:21:24,870 --> 01:21:21,920
how the stars looked in the big dipper

1922
01:21:26,390 --> 01:21:24,880
10 000 years ago and where they've moved

1923
01:21:28,950 --> 01:21:26,400
and where they're moving to in the

1924
01:21:30,870 --> 01:21:28,960
future and so we can now chart the

1925
01:21:33,750 --> 01:21:30,880
movement and momentum of other stars in

1926
01:21:37,350 --> 01:21:33,760
the galaxy and these pulsars they act

1927
01:21:40,629 --> 01:21:37,360
like light houses and we can triangulate

1928
01:21:43,030 --> 01:21:40,639
three lighthouses and pinpoint the

1929
01:21:46,550 --> 01:21:43,040
position of any point in space-time

1930
01:21:48,149 --> 01:21:46,560
anywhere in this galaxy that is correct

1931
01:21:50,070 --> 01:21:48,159
that is correct

1932
01:21:51,590 --> 01:21:50,080
okay so

1933
01:21:53,669 --> 01:21:51,600
is that

1934
01:21:56,790 --> 01:21:53,679
the way i mean e.t would have to

1935
01:21:58,470 --> 01:21:56,800
understand this exact same process right

1936
01:22:00,950 --> 01:21:58,480
they would travel

1937
01:22:03,590 --> 01:22:00,960
the universe using the same

1938
01:22:07,189 --> 01:22:03,600
mapping that would be their gps too as

1939
01:22:09,030 --> 01:22:07,199
well that's right and in fact there's uh

1940
01:22:10,390 --> 01:22:09,040
there's a gentleman whose work i came

1941
01:22:12,310 --> 01:22:10,400
across

1942
01:22:14,629 --> 01:22:12,320
and i can't remember his name i need to

1943
01:22:16,550 --> 01:22:14,639
look up his book again but

1944
01:22:19,990 --> 01:22:16,560
he was introduced to me by stephen

1945
01:22:22,950 --> 01:22:20,000
bassett stephen bassett was doing a talk

1946
01:22:25,590 --> 01:22:22,960
on different civilization types type 1

1947
01:22:27,910 --> 01:22:25,600
type 2 and type 3

1948
01:22:30,709 --> 01:22:27,920
and you know i was talking to him i

1949
01:22:33,510 --> 01:22:30,719
brought up to him this idea of pulsars

1950
01:22:35,990 --> 01:22:33,520
as navigation jumps and he said there's

1951
01:22:39,350 --> 01:22:36,000
a guy who wrote this book describing

1952
01:22:42,310 --> 01:22:39,360
pulse he thinks that pulsars were set up

1953
01:22:44,629 --> 01:22:42,320
as navigation beacons by some super

1954
01:22:47,510 --> 01:22:44,639
advanced civilization and i was like oh

1955
01:22:49,510 --> 01:22:47,520
my god you're kidding me like that's

1956
01:22:51,990 --> 01:22:49,520
the way i've been thinking about this

1957
01:22:53,990 --> 01:22:52,000
and um and that to me was a big

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confirmation because somebody who wrote

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an entire book just on that topic you

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know essentially working to prove this

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idea that these things are navigational

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beacons um it just made a lot of sense

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to me and yes as a galactic civilization

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you need to build a library of the

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galaxy to be able to navigate and as you

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travel you're going to build out that

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01:23:21,030 --> 01:23:19,040
library more and more and more

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and you know just like we've done in our

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sciences learning how to compensate for

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movement

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redshift blue shift frequency shifts

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we've learned how to compensate for all

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of these things to do stellar

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01:23:33,669 --> 01:23:32,800
cartography

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and

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these civilizations have taken that you

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know another

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thousand to ten thousand years of

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evolution into the future beyond where

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we are as a civilization

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01:23:49,910 --> 01:23:46,159
uh uh a couple of weeks ago there was an

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01:23:51,270 --> 01:23:49,920
announcement that we found a ring in the

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milky way

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of the spiral galaxy a ring of the milky

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01:23:59,669 --> 01:23:54,560
way

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12 billion years old that is almost as

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old as the universe itself and another

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uh 20 to 30 percent older than what we

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thought the milky way was does this

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change things too as well as far as when

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stars uh

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formed

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and when

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extra terrestrial civilizations uh could

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have evolved because now we

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i think the number is 40 billion rocky

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earth-like planets in the milky way

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alone in the goldilocks zone rightly at

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least at least yeah that

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now we're talking about the ages of some

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01:24:47,270 --> 01:24:44,480
of these planets nearly forming back

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01:24:48,790 --> 01:24:47,280
when the big bang if you you know want

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01:24:51,110 --> 01:24:48,800
to call it the big bang and when that

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01:24:51,910 --> 01:24:51,120
allegedly happened yeah

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01:24:57,350 --> 01:24:51,920
but

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old civilizations or the possibility of

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01:24:59,750 --> 01:24:58,800
them evolving

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yeah

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you know it it does several things i'm

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really glad that you brought up the

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study because

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one of the things that this study does

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is reinforce

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our our study and our theories about

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galactic evolution the idea that a

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01:25:22,229 --> 01:25:18,560
galaxy you know forms you know perhaps

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in a vortex of stars and then

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merges and collides with other galaxies

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01:25:30,070 --> 01:25:28,400
forming even more advanced patterns

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01:25:32,629 --> 01:25:30,080
and in one of the models you know the

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spiral galaxy is i think model three

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01:25:37,590 --> 01:25:35,199
it's like version three of a galaxy that

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01:25:40,390 --> 01:25:37,600
you get to and we know we're in a spiral

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01:25:42,470 --> 01:25:40,400
galaxy or a barred spiral galaxy and so

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01:25:44,629 --> 01:25:42,480
we know our galaxy's already gone

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01:25:46,310 --> 01:25:44,639
through some evolutions and of course

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01:25:48,470 --> 01:25:46,320
we're gonna merge with andromeda at some

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01:25:50,390 --> 01:25:48,480
point what's it gonna look like then and

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01:25:51,990 --> 01:25:50,400
you know the the question a lot of

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01:25:53,669 --> 01:25:52,000
people get to is oh my god does that

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mean that all the stars are going to hit

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each other well

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yeah you gotta realize that it's just

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like atoms floating around in the air in

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front of you like they don't need to run

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01:26:07,750 --> 01:26:04,960
into each other that often for one thing

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01:26:11,590 --> 01:26:07,760
and and it's like this space between

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01:26:13,270 --> 01:26:11,600
these fields of star systems is so vast

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in so many cases

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01:26:18,629 --> 01:26:16,159
that it's way more likely that two star

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01:26:20,790 --> 01:26:18,639
systems are just going to get move into

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01:26:25,669 --> 01:26:20,800
each other's gravitational field and

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01:26:28,629 --> 01:26:25,679
become binary you know and the amount of

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01:26:29,669 --> 01:26:28,639
power that the suns have at the center

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01:26:32,950 --> 01:26:29,679
of these

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01:26:33,750 --> 01:26:32,960
solar systems so to speak is so great

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01:26:35,350 --> 01:26:33,760
that

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01:26:37,669 --> 01:26:35,360
you we could get into a dance with

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01:26:41,270 --> 01:26:37,679
another star we in fact we might even be

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01:26:42,950 --> 01:26:41,280
in a dance with several other stars and

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01:26:44,550 --> 01:26:42,960
we would never even know it all of the

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01:26:46,709 --> 01:26:44,560
planets in our solar system would

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01:26:48,629 --> 01:26:46,719
continue going around just doing that

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01:26:51,350 --> 01:26:48,639
just what they do exactly like they do

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01:26:53,669 --> 01:26:51,360
it because 4.1 light years you know to

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01:26:57,350 --> 01:26:53,679
the syrian system or whatever is a long

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01:27:00,310 --> 01:26:57,360
way this is very far this is like a long

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01:27:02,629 --> 01:27:00,320
way that it takes light to travel and so

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01:27:03,669 --> 01:27:02,639
yes that it would make sense that there

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are

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older stars that have been part of

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this galaxy's evolution

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01:27:14,629 --> 01:27:11,760
you know and that formed way way back in

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01:27:17,030 --> 01:27:14,639
the early days of the body of our galaxy

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before it merged with others you know

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01:27:22,229 --> 01:27:19,760
before more um you know stellar

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01:27:24,470 --> 01:27:22,239
nurseries formed essentially nebulas

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01:27:26,470 --> 01:27:24,480
forming more and more of the stars but

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jimmy you know i think it's also really

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01:27:30,550 --> 01:27:28,880
important to point to a particular topic

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01:27:31,830 --> 01:27:30,560
with this idea

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which is

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01:27:38,070 --> 01:27:35,520
is is is our galaxy and are the stars in

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01:27:40,229 --> 01:27:38,080
it old enough for there to be lots of

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01:27:41,110 --> 01:27:40,239
other civilizations

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well

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let's talk about that when we come back

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actually i was going in that direction

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01:27:49,350 --> 01:27:47,280
but it's one of the most important

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01:27:50,950 --> 01:27:49,360
topics because

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01:27:53,030 --> 01:27:50,960
what we know

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01:27:56,149 --> 01:27:53,040
is earth is about four and a half

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01:27:57,030 --> 01:27:56,159
billion years old so is our star and our

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01:27:59,910 --> 01:27:57,040
sun

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01:28:02,070 --> 01:27:59,920
has a theoretical shelf life of about 10

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01:28:03,990 --> 01:28:02,080
billion years that technically we're

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01:28:06,229 --> 01:28:04,000
halfway through that right now that's

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01:28:08,470 --> 01:28:06,239
not entirely true in that

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01:28:10,310 --> 01:28:08,480
it's going to become very unstable it's

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01:28:11,990 --> 01:28:10,320
not going to be stable for the next 5

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01:28:14,629 --> 01:28:12,000
billion years it's going to be very

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01:28:17,430 --> 01:28:14,639
unstable and other extraterrestrial

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01:28:19,830 --> 01:28:17,440
civilizations out there have to have

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01:28:22,390 --> 01:28:19,840
dealt with the same issues we're going

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01:28:24,390 --> 01:28:22,400
to start dealing with here very very

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01:28:26,790 --> 01:28:24,400
soon adam let's take our break right

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here this is fade to black i am your

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01:28:33,030 --> 01:28:29,840
host jimmy church and here's the deal

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01:28:35,430 --> 01:28:33,040
tonight we are talking about

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01:28:37,030 --> 01:28:35,440
the physics of an extraterrestrial

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01:28:39,510 --> 01:28:37,040
civilization what are they doing to get

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01:28:40,709 --> 01:28:39,520
here what do they know what do we still

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01:28:42,390 --> 01:28:40,719
need to learn

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all of that and much more with adam

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01:28:46,200 --> 01:28:44,800
apollo coming up after this short break

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stay with us

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[Music]

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way out here we listen to jimmy church

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you're listening to fade to black

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[Applause]

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you're listening to jimmy church and

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fade to black

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[Applause]

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[Music]

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this is jimmy church of fade to black

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and this year june 18th 2022

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the disclosure fest foundation presents

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the mass meditation initiative it's

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music performances by trevor hall the

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there's 16 stages in total over 30 acres

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in downtown los angeles with vendors and

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supply i do disruptions in the food

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they usually occur with little warning

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[Music]

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all right welcome back fate to black i

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am your host jimmy church tonight adam

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01:33:30,910 --> 01:33:27,920
apollo is with us

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01:33:33,510 --> 01:33:30,920
we're discussing the physics of an

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01:33:36,070 --> 01:33:33,520
extraterrestrial civilization and

2191
01:33:39,590 --> 01:33:36,080
and what that would entail and i've

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01:33:42,550 --> 01:33:39,600
often wondered too um adam if uh

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01:33:46,229 --> 01:33:42,560
is is is physics different

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01:33:48,390 --> 01:33:46,239
in another part of the universe and and

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01:33:50,149 --> 01:33:48,400
to what we have here and we'll get to

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01:33:51,189 --> 01:33:50,159
that in a second you've got a couple of

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01:33:53,750 --> 01:33:51,199
events

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01:33:56,070 --> 01:33:53,760
uh that are coming up one uh is of

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01:33:56,950 --> 01:33:56,080
course disclosurefest uh coming up in

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01:33:59,110 --> 01:33:56,960
june

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and you've got another event happening

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here in california tell us about that

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01:34:06,870 --> 01:34:03,920
yeah absolutely i'm at an event called

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01:34:09,030 --> 01:34:06,880
liberty's horizon in san diego at the

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01:34:11,910 --> 01:34:09,040
end of the month uh it's the 31st and

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the first i believe and liberty is

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01:34:19,110 --> 01:34:12,960
spelled

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01:34:22,629 --> 01:34:21,590
um and so liberties horizon and it's

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essentially

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um

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a

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kinds of things everything from reducing

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01:34:56,550 --> 01:34:52,560
tax liability to building community

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01:34:58,870 --> 01:34:56,560
vehicles um and essentially you know is

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01:35:00,870 --> 01:34:58,880
the template structures

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01:35:03,189 --> 01:35:00,880
that are going into a lot of what we

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call web 3 projects or decentralized web

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01:35:07,669 --> 01:35:04,480
projects so i'm going to be talking

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01:35:10,390 --> 01:35:07,679
about in particular um

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disrupting the social web field and

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01:35:15,510 --> 01:35:13,360
building new systems that can allow us

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to own our identities control our

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01:35:20,310 --> 01:35:18,320
identities have freedom of speech

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freedom of connection with each other

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01:35:25,030 --> 01:35:22,880
not be throttled and actually weave

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01:35:26,790 --> 01:35:25,040
together as a global community and how

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01:35:29,750 --> 01:35:26,800
some of that technology can also be

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01:35:31,669 --> 01:35:29,760
leveraged to create regenerative impact

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meaning how we actually clean up the

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01:35:35,990 --> 01:35:34,000
rivers clean up pollution serve the

2231
01:35:37,590 --> 01:35:36,000
planet transform our cities to make them

2232
01:35:39,270 --> 01:35:37,600
healthier and cleaner and greener and

2233
01:35:41,910 --> 01:35:39,280
more amazing

2234
01:35:45,030 --> 01:35:41,920
because it is it is time for the

2235
01:35:47,590 --> 01:35:45,040
technological world to begin truly

2236
01:35:49,830 --> 01:35:47,600
acting in service and in stewardship to

2237
01:35:51,590 --> 01:35:49,840
this planet which has been an area of my

2238
01:35:53,910 --> 01:35:51,600
work for a very long time

2239
01:35:55,270 --> 01:35:53,920
a a bigger version of fade to black

2240
01:35:56,470 --> 01:35:55,280
right yeah

2241
01:35:59,830 --> 01:35:56,480
exactly

2242
01:36:02,070 --> 01:35:59,840
and also uh what disclosure fest is is

2243
01:36:04,870 --> 01:36:02,080
all about because fundamentally it

2244
01:36:07,350 --> 01:36:04,880
addresses all of those core things yeah

2245
01:36:09,189 --> 01:36:07,360
cleaning up the beaches planting trees

2246
01:36:11,990 --> 01:36:09,199
uh hunger

2247
01:36:14,550 --> 01:36:12,000
um and and doing it through uh

2248
01:36:17,750 --> 01:36:14,560
the community and also uh meditation too

2249
01:36:19,990 --> 01:36:17,760
as well which is a big part of it um

2250
01:36:20,870 --> 01:36:20,000
that that's an amazing event i did read

2251
01:36:23,109 --> 01:36:20,880
through

2252
01:36:26,070 --> 01:36:23,119
uh a bunch of the materials and it's

2253
01:36:29,430 --> 01:36:26,080
it's very intriguing it's so funny you

2254
01:36:30,790 --> 01:36:29,440
said to me you go jimmy this is so you

2255
01:36:39,109 --> 01:36:30,800
yeah

2256
01:36:41,669 --> 01:36:39,119
back to where uh we were right before

2257
01:36:43,990 --> 01:36:41,679
the break and and that is

2258
01:36:47,350 --> 01:36:44,000
well sort of what you just addressed

2259
01:36:48,950 --> 01:36:47,360
there too as well with liberties in that

2260
01:36:50,629 --> 01:36:48,960
et

2261
01:36:52,550 --> 01:36:50,639
would have to

2262
01:36:55,109 --> 01:36:52,560
survive

2263
01:36:56,550 --> 01:36:55,119
uh killing itself nuclear wars you know

2264
01:36:57,590 --> 01:36:56,560
something like that they would have to

2265
01:37:00,790 --> 01:36:57,600
survive

2266
01:37:03,189 --> 01:37:00,800
burning its planet of nutrients and and

2267
01:37:05,350 --> 01:37:03,199
growing food it would have to survive

2268
01:37:07,669 --> 01:37:05,360
pollution it would have to survive

2269
01:37:09,750 --> 01:37:07,679
natural disasters it would have to

2270
01:37:12,470 --> 01:37:09,760
survive drinking up all of the water it

2271
01:37:14,790 --> 01:37:12,480
would have to survive an asteroid

2272
01:37:17,270 --> 01:37:14,800
uh impact or a comet impact it would

2273
01:37:18,390 --> 01:37:17,280
have to survive another alien invasion

2274
01:37:20,629 --> 01:37:18,400
all right

2275
01:37:22,709 --> 01:37:20,639
it would have to survive everything that

2276
01:37:26,229 --> 01:37:22,719
is right in front of us too

2277
01:37:27,990 --> 01:37:26,239
in order to continue right and and so

2278
01:37:28,790 --> 01:37:28,000
when we talk about

2279
01:37:31,270 --> 01:37:28,800
uh

2280
01:37:33,510 --> 01:37:31,280
an extraterrestrial civilization being a

2281
01:37:37,030 --> 01:37:33,520
billion years more advanced than us or

2282
01:37:39,830 --> 01:37:37,040
10 000 years they would have to confront

2283
01:37:42,709 --> 01:37:39,840
everything that i just listed right

2284
01:37:44,470 --> 01:37:42,719
uh potentially i mean it doesn't mean

2285
01:37:46,229 --> 01:37:44,480
you're going to run into all of those

2286
01:37:48,310 --> 01:37:46,239
problems

2287
01:37:50,550 --> 01:37:48,320
you know if you don't build nuclear

2288
01:37:52,470 --> 01:37:50,560
power for example you never run into the

2289
01:37:55,510 --> 01:37:52,480
potential of the nuclear bomb bombing

2290
01:37:57,910 --> 01:37:55,520
yourself um if you haven't you know

2291
01:37:59,590 --> 01:37:57,920
made working with fire one of your main

2292
01:38:01,830 --> 01:37:59,600
things then you don't you go through a

2293
01:38:03,430 --> 01:38:01,840
lot of the challenges of the ways people

2294
01:38:05,590 --> 01:38:03,440
blow themselves up with fire and

2295
01:38:07,270 --> 01:38:05,600
gunpowder and all of that kind of stuff

2296
01:38:09,590 --> 01:38:07,280
it's it's really

2297
01:38:11,109 --> 01:38:09,600
deeply dependent on the nature of the

2298
01:38:14,390 --> 01:38:11,119
challenge of the species and the

2299
01:38:16,709 --> 01:38:14,400
biosphere that they evolve inside of and

2300
01:38:18,070 --> 01:38:16,719
it's important i think to to look at

2301
01:38:20,310 --> 01:38:18,080
that and say

2302
01:38:21,189 --> 01:38:20,320
you know there are certainly places on

2303
01:38:23,350 --> 01:38:21,199
earth

2304
01:38:26,470 --> 01:38:23,360
that have essentially been pretty much

2305
01:38:28,629 --> 01:38:26,480
paradises for almost as long as we know

2306
01:38:31,350 --> 01:38:28,639
humans have been there because they just

2307
01:38:33,189 --> 01:38:31,360
didn't operate in the same ways as other

2308
01:38:35,030 --> 01:38:33,199
peoples in other areas they didn't get

2309
01:38:36,950 --> 01:38:35,040
themselves into wars they never had the

2310
01:38:39,910 --> 01:38:36,960
threat of a nuclear bomb or they didn't

2311
01:38:41,990 --> 01:38:39,920
know they did anyway you know um

2312
01:38:43,350 --> 01:38:42,000
and so you know looking at all the

2313
01:38:44,470 --> 01:38:43,360
planets in the galaxy i think it's

2314
01:38:47,270 --> 01:38:44,480
important to

2315
01:38:49,109 --> 01:38:47,280
to take them at their context but you

2316
01:38:51,350 --> 01:38:49,119
know jimmy i want to come back to the

2317
01:38:53,430 --> 01:38:51,360
the age of worlds if you don't mind can

2318
01:38:55,910 --> 01:38:53,440
we go sure no that's what well that's

2319
01:38:57,350 --> 01:38:55,920
what i thought i was talking about yeah

2320
01:38:58,950 --> 01:38:57,360
well you know

2321
01:39:02,149 --> 01:38:58,960
one of the biggest

2322
01:39:04,229 --> 01:39:02,159
arguments against galactic civilizations

2323
01:39:05,990 --> 01:39:04,239
and particularly advanced ones

2324
01:39:08,550 --> 01:39:06,000
especially with a lot of the different

2325
01:39:11,669 --> 01:39:08,560
star systems out there is like oh yeah

2326
01:39:13,750 --> 01:39:11,679
but is that star really old enough right

2327
01:39:17,109 --> 01:39:13,760
is that star old enough to have an

2328
01:39:18,709 --> 01:39:17,119
advanced civilization on it so humans as

2329
01:39:21,109 --> 01:39:18,719
we know us right

2330
01:39:23,510 --> 01:39:21,119
humans as we know them essentially

2331
01:39:26,709 --> 01:39:23,520
have been around on earth for about five

2332
01:39:28,189 --> 01:39:26,719
million years right and you said you

2333
01:39:31,270 --> 01:39:28,199
know earth is

2334
01:39:34,149 --> 01:39:31,280
4.5 billion years old so there's been a

2335
01:39:36,070 --> 01:39:34,159
long journey you know on earth to get to

2336
01:39:38,470 --> 01:39:36,080
human and then but humans have been

2337
01:39:40,390 --> 01:39:38,480
around for just like a blip you know of

2338
01:39:43,430 --> 01:39:40,400
the lifetime of the earth

2339
01:39:45,750 --> 01:39:43,440
now one of the star systems that gets a

2340
01:39:46,870 --> 01:39:45,760
lot of contention is the pleiades and i

2341
01:39:48,550 --> 01:39:46,880
already talked about the pleiades

2342
01:39:51,590 --> 01:39:48,560
several times tonight and so i figure

2343
01:39:53,270 --> 01:39:51,600
hey good opportunity to throw out some

2344
01:39:57,350 --> 01:39:53,280
fallacies in our belief systems about

2345
01:39:59,830 --> 01:39:57,360
the pleiades so the pleiades based on

2346
01:40:01,669 --> 01:39:59,840
really it's one generalized theoretical

2347
01:40:04,229 --> 01:40:01,679
model that we think is probably about

2348
01:40:08,629 --> 01:40:04,239
the closest you know puts the pleiades

2349
01:40:11,189 --> 01:40:08,639
at about 115 million years old okay

2350
01:40:14,070 --> 01:40:11,199
so that's not that's not four billion

2351
01:40:17,510 --> 01:40:14,080
years old okay that's 150 million years

2352
01:40:20,149 --> 01:40:17,520
old so that's a lot less and so from our

2353
01:40:22,629 --> 01:40:20,159
sort of planetary wait wait wait wait

2354
01:40:23,590 --> 01:40:22,639
wait adam pump the brakes just say that

2355
01:40:24,390 --> 01:40:23,600
again

2356
01:40:28,229 --> 01:40:24,400
yeah

2357
01:40:29,910 --> 01:40:28,239
the age of the pleiades star system is

2358
01:40:31,990 --> 01:40:29,920
what

2359
01:40:34,470 --> 01:40:32,000
applying one of the assessment

2360
01:40:37,590 --> 01:40:34,480
techniques we believe that the pleiadian

2361
01:40:39,830 --> 01:40:37,600
star system that cluster of stars is

2362
01:40:43,430 --> 01:40:39,840
about 115

2363
01:40:46,550 --> 01:40:45,510
okay my mind is blown

2364
01:40:48,550 --> 01:40:46,560
in that

2365
01:40:51,590 --> 01:40:48,560
okay in in

2366
01:40:53,350 --> 01:40:51,600
let's just compare to what i know yeah

2367
01:40:55,830 --> 01:40:53,360
our son

2368
01:40:59,270 --> 01:40:55,840
our star system

2369
01:41:01,750 --> 01:40:59,280
five billion years old yep with the b

2370
01:41:04,470 --> 01:41:01,760
yeah now we're talking about the seven

2371
01:41:07,669 --> 01:41:04,480
sisters right okay

2372
01:41:10,070 --> 01:41:07,679
and the age of that cluster is what

2373
01:41:14,070 --> 01:41:10,080
uh you know it's believed to be have

2374
01:41:17,669 --> 01:41:15,030
okay

2375
01:41:19,910 --> 01:41:17,679
continue i i need to learn i need i'm

2376
01:41:21,669 --> 01:41:19,920
getting my knowledge on okay continue

2377
01:41:25,189 --> 01:41:21,679
totally so

2378
01:41:29,109 --> 01:41:25,199
so here's the idea right if you look at

2379
01:41:31,270 --> 01:41:29,119
the the sun you know our sun and we look

2380
01:41:33,270 --> 01:41:31,280
at earth we think our sun's 5 billion

2381
01:41:37,510 --> 01:41:33,280
years ago and we think earth formed at

2382
01:41:40,629 --> 01:41:37,520
you know 4 million for 4 billion 500 500

2383
01:41:43,109 --> 01:41:40,639
million years ago right 4.5 billion

2384
01:41:45,270 --> 01:41:43,119
and so there's a fairly close

2385
01:41:47,350 --> 01:41:45,280
correlative relationship and we're we're

2386
01:41:50,149 --> 01:41:47,360
guessing you know we don't know exactly

2387
01:41:52,390 --> 01:41:50,159
how old the sun is when it was birthed

2388
01:41:55,270 --> 01:41:52,400
and we also don't know exactly when the

2389
01:41:58,310 --> 01:41:55,280
earth was formed in fact if we look at

2390
01:42:01,189 --> 01:41:58,320
some proto-planetary systems we can look

2391
01:42:04,310 --> 01:42:01,199
at them and assess that planetoids in

2392
01:42:05,510 --> 01:42:04,320
other words planet bodies can be well in

2393
01:42:08,790 --> 01:42:05,520
formation

2394
01:42:12,629 --> 01:42:08,800
long before a star so to speak ignites

2395
01:42:15,030 --> 01:42:12,639
right correct so so in other words it's

2396
01:42:17,669 --> 01:42:15,040
possible that earth could have actually

2397
01:42:19,590 --> 01:42:17,679
formed or a lot of it before our sun

2398
01:42:22,870 --> 01:42:19,600
even went you know

2399
01:42:25,189 --> 01:42:22,880
no is essentially turned on its fusion

2400
01:42:26,310 --> 01:42:25,199
engines and turned into a big you know

2401
01:42:29,109 --> 01:42:26,320
solar

2402
01:42:31,510 --> 01:42:29,119
powerhouse yes and so

2403
01:42:33,669 --> 01:42:31,520
yes if we take that same model and we

2404
01:42:36,950 --> 01:42:33,679
project it out we can look at a very

2405
01:42:38,790 --> 01:42:36,960
very young system like the pleiades that

2406
01:42:41,350 --> 01:42:38,800
seems so young

2407
01:42:42,870 --> 01:42:41,360
as to almost be illogical that life

2408
01:42:43,990 --> 01:42:42,880
could be there right

2409
01:42:46,709 --> 01:42:44,000
and yet

2410
01:42:49,350 --> 01:42:46,719
if a planet was forming

2411
01:42:52,149 --> 01:42:49,360
inside of the pleiadian cloud from

2412
01:42:55,030 --> 01:42:52,159
supernovas that went off inside of that

2413
01:42:57,669 --> 01:42:55,040
you know that nebula area right and

2414
01:43:00,629 --> 01:42:57,679
you've got all of this mass and all this

2415
01:43:04,229 --> 01:43:00,639
matter and it's birthing all of these

2416
01:43:06,709 --> 01:43:04,239
bright hot blue stars and around all of

2417
01:43:09,030 --> 01:43:06,719
these bright hot blue stars there's tons

2418
01:43:10,390 --> 01:43:09,040
of mass i mean it's literally in a

2419
01:43:12,550 --> 01:43:10,400
nebula right

2420
01:43:14,950 --> 01:43:12,560
and so what if a ton of that mass and

2421
01:43:16,550 --> 01:43:14,960
matter was water

2422
01:43:19,750 --> 01:43:16,560
and that water

2423
01:43:22,629 --> 01:43:19,760
begins to form planets around stars that

2424
01:43:25,030 --> 01:43:22,639
aren't even fully ignited yet right so

2425
01:43:27,189 --> 01:43:25,040
if there were planets around some of

2426
01:43:29,030 --> 01:43:27,199
these stars let's say

2427
01:43:31,109 --> 01:43:29,040
somewhere in the range of 100 million

2428
01:43:32,629 --> 01:43:31,119
years ago like around the time of the

2429
01:43:36,390 --> 01:43:32,639
star formation

2430
01:43:39,189 --> 01:43:36,400
and if if any of these planets had tons

2431
01:43:42,070 --> 01:43:39,199
of water on them well if we go with

2432
01:43:43,910 --> 01:43:42,080
francis crick directed panspermia or we

2433
01:43:46,950 --> 01:43:43,920
look at any of the other studies that

2434
01:43:48,950 --> 01:43:46,960
say what happens when you've got the

2435
01:43:51,030 --> 01:43:48,960
right kind of amino acids you've got

2436
01:43:52,790 --> 01:43:51,040
water and you've got light

2437
01:43:54,950 --> 01:43:52,800
you've got warmth you've got water

2438
01:43:55,990 --> 01:43:54,960
you've got amino acids you get life

2439
01:43:59,590 --> 01:43:56,000
period

2440
01:44:02,629 --> 01:43:59,600
life comes about quickly and we look at

2441
01:44:05,270 --> 01:44:02,639
the evolution of human bodies of five

2442
01:44:06,790 --> 01:44:05,280
million years and we think oh yeah well

2443
01:44:08,870 --> 01:44:06,800
that makes sense for like a long

2444
01:44:11,189 --> 01:44:08,880
evolution from neanderthals and whatever

2445
01:44:13,350 --> 01:44:11,199
and we'd get to us you know we look at

2446
01:44:15,669 --> 01:44:13,360
life evolving on earth and we look at

2447
01:44:17,030 --> 01:44:15,679
like 100 million years of evolution and

2448
01:44:18,629 --> 01:44:17,040
we're like dang

2449
01:44:21,030 --> 01:44:18,639
there's a lot that can happen in a

2450
01:44:23,109 --> 01:44:21,040
hundred million years so

2451
01:44:26,629 --> 01:44:23,119
why wouldn't it be possible that a

2452
01:44:29,590 --> 01:44:26,639
humanoid species came about sooner or

2453
01:44:31,910 --> 01:44:29,600
even that possibly it ceded a water

2454
01:44:35,270 --> 01:44:31,920
planet at some point from some other

2455
01:44:38,310 --> 01:44:35,280
world a lot earlier and that that

2456
01:44:40,229 --> 01:44:38,320
species has evolved on that planet maybe

2457
01:44:42,070 --> 01:44:40,239
twice as long as us

2458
01:44:45,270 --> 01:44:42,080
or even if we didn't go that far if we

2459
01:44:49,030 --> 01:44:45,280
said six million years right give us

2460
01:44:50,709 --> 01:44:49,040
give us as humans one more million years

2461
01:44:52,790 --> 01:44:50,719
of development and think about where

2462
01:44:54,950 --> 01:44:52,800
we're going to be experiencing i mean we

2463
01:44:56,790 --> 01:44:54,960
in our science fiction we think that a

2464
01:44:59,430 --> 01:44:56,800
million years from now we think that you

2465
01:45:00,870 --> 01:44:59,440
know and uh ten thousand even a thousand

2466
01:45:02,470 --> 01:45:00,880
years from now

2467
01:45:05,430 --> 01:45:02,480
we're gonna be using

2468
01:45:08,950 --> 01:45:05,440
nano materials that can literally form

2469
01:45:11,669 --> 01:45:08,960
our houses and construct and deconstruct

2470
01:45:14,070 --> 01:45:11,679
the entire reality around us that might

2471
01:45:17,030 --> 01:45:14,080
be within a hundred years for god sakes

2472
01:45:19,990 --> 01:45:17,040
so once you hit this curve of conscious

2473
01:45:22,470 --> 01:45:20,000
evolution the potential of a species to

2474
01:45:23,830 --> 01:45:22,480
develop into a galactic species can be

2475
01:45:24,950 --> 01:45:23,840
taken place in a matter of a couple

2476
01:45:27,910 --> 01:45:24,960
hundred years

2477
01:45:30,390 --> 01:45:27,920
i mean we went from literally no cars no

2478
01:45:33,430 --> 01:45:30,400
trains no planes wagon

2479
01:45:35,910 --> 01:45:33,440
pulling our stuff around to now

2480
01:45:37,590 --> 01:45:35,920
i can use a device on my desk and talk

2481
01:45:39,910 --> 01:45:37,600
to anyone anywhere in the world i'm

2482
01:45:41,910 --> 01:45:39,920
literally live streaming with you to

2483
01:45:44,950 --> 01:45:41,920
people all over the world and that

2484
01:45:46,149 --> 01:45:44,960
wasn't even possible 30 years ago that's

2485
01:45:51,430 --> 01:45:46,159
right

2486
01:45:52,229 --> 01:45:51,440
take that i like where you're going with

2487
01:45:54,470 --> 01:45:52,239
this

2488
01:45:57,669 --> 01:45:54,480
it's a pretty interesting

2489
01:46:00,629 --> 01:45:57,679
not necessarily needing a full-blown sun

2490
01:46:01,590 --> 01:46:00,639
in a in a dust ring things are already

2491
01:46:03,430 --> 01:46:01,600
forming

2492
01:46:05,270 --> 01:46:03,440
gravity is already there that's how the

2493
01:46:08,070 --> 01:46:05,280
dust ring is

2494
01:46:09,669 --> 01:46:08,080
with any star system including ours

2495
01:46:12,390 --> 01:46:09,679
that's where essentially everything

2496
01:46:14,950 --> 01:46:12,400
starts it's it's dust and particles that

2497
01:46:17,030 --> 01:46:14,960
gather together uh because of gravity

2498
01:46:19,189 --> 01:46:17,040
you don't necessarily and there may be

2499
01:46:21,109 --> 01:46:19,199
sources of light already there you don't

2500
01:46:23,910 --> 01:46:21,119
necessarily need it from the sun there

2501
01:46:25,990 --> 01:46:23,920
is heat already there okay i like where

2502
01:46:27,510 --> 01:46:26,000
you're going with that so if we take

2503
01:46:30,550 --> 01:46:27,520
that idea

2504
01:46:33,350 --> 01:46:30,560
and we throw that over to the drake

2505
01:46:35,270 --> 01:46:33,360
equation and where we are sitting now

2506
01:46:37,669 --> 01:46:35,280
with this theoretical number being

2507
01:46:39,270 --> 01:46:37,679
thrown out there 40 billion rocky

2508
01:46:41,590 --> 01:46:39,280
earth-like planets

2509
01:46:43,910 --> 01:46:41,600
in the goldilocks zone

2510
01:46:45,189 --> 01:46:43,920
how many advanced civilizations know

2511
01:46:48,390 --> 01:46:45,199
about earth

2512
01:46:51,430 --> 01:46:48,400
what what what is that number now is it

2513
01:46:53,030 --> 01:46:51,440
it's not one it's not two it's not 50 is

2514
01:46:55,270 --> 01:46:53,040
it potentially

2515
01:46:57,510 --> 01:46:55,280
millions what kind of number are we

2516
01:47:00,070 --> 01:46:57,520
talking about it's potentially millions

2517
01:47:02,229 --> 01:47:00,080
jimmy the drake equation easily puts

2518
01:47:04,470 --> 01:47:02,239
millions of intelligent civilizations

2519
01:47:06,470 --> 01:47:04,480
that could communicate around the galaxy

2520
01:47:09,430 --> 01:47:06,480
based on our current science right now

2521
01:47:11,910 --> 01:47:09,440
and that's still being extremely

2522
01:47:14,390 --> 01:47:11,920
conservative all right good numbers

2523
01:47:16,229 --> 01:47:14,400
right extremely conservative i didn't

2524
01:47:17,669 --> 01:47:16,239
maybe somebody might argue that with me

2525
01:47:19,510 --> 01:47:17,679
but i'm telling you i've run the drake

2526
01:47:22,390 --> 01:47:19,520
equation since i was 18 years old and

2527
01:47:25,109 --> 01:47:22,400
that was 22 years ago so right i'm 40

2528
01:47:27,910 --> 01:47:25,119
now i've been doing this for a long time

2529
01:47:30,229 --> 01:47:27,920
and essentially you know if you look at

2530
01:47:31,270 --> 01:47:30,239
if you look at this dynamic and you look

2531
01:47:34,950 --> 01:47:31,280
at this

2532
01:47:39,109 --> 01:47:34,960
you know this equation and you just say

2533
01:47:43,070 --> 01:47:39,119
hey but maybe of those millions

2534
01:47:44,629 --> 01:47:43,080
maybe a fraction of those a tiny

2535
01:47:46,950 --> 01:47:44,639
0.01

2536
01:47:48,790 --> 01:47:46,960
or something-ish of those you know

2537
01:47:51,030 --> 01:47:48,800
actually becomes an advanced

2538
01:47:53,270 --> 01:47:51,040
civilization enough to like travel into

2539
01:47:55,910 --> 01:47:53,280
the sky or into the stars i mean

2540
01:47:57,590 --> 01:47:55,920
literally you're still talking about

2541
01:48:00,470 --> 01:47:57,600
thousands

2542
01:48:01,270 --> 01:48:00,480
of space-faring civilizations

2543
01:48:06,229 --> 01:48:01,280
right

2544
01:48:08,709 --> 01:48:06,239
yes yes yes and um if we if we take that

2545
01:48:11,270 --> 01:48:08,719
you know like one step further

2546
01:48:12,870 --> 01:48:11,280
um and we've got to circle back too to

2547
01:48:15,030 --> 01:48:12,880
what we were talking about earlier and

2548
01:48:16,470 --> 01:48:15,040
that is uh the physics in in different

2549
01:48:18,870 --> 01:48:16,480
parts of the universe

2550
01:48:21,350 --> 01:48:18,880
um is is this

2551
01:48:24,149 --> 01:48:21,360
how many

2552
01:48:26,629 --> 01:48:24,159
have visited earth more than once

2553
01:48:28,149 --> 01:48:26,639
and before you answer the reason why i

2554
01:48:30,070 --> 01:48:28,159
suggest this

2555
01:48:32,470 --> 01:48:30,080
is that there are so many planets out

2556
01:48:34,950 --> 01:48:32,480
there to explore for an interstellar

2557
01:48:37,590 --> 01:48:34,960
civilization to go and do

2558
01:48:38,709 --> 01:48:37,600
um they're only logging

2559
01:48:44,229 --> 01:48:38,719
right

2560
01:48:46,070 --> 01:48:44,239
okay okay they've got dinosaurs

2561
01:48:48,550 --> 01:48:46,080
okay this is where they are we'll come

2562
01:48:50,550 --> 01:48:48,560
back and check it out maybe again

2563
01:48:52,950 --> 01:48:50,560
we've got more work to do we've got more

2564
01:48:57,189 --> 01:48:52,960
planets to explore and log

2565
01:48:59,109 --> 01:48:57,199
how many have visited us more than once

2566
01:49:00,950 --> 01:48:59,119
right

2567
01:49:03,030 --> 01:49:00,960
i mean why

2568
01:49:06,470 --> 01:49:03,040
the numbers are crazy

2569
01:49:08,390 --> 01:49:06,480
it's a crazy thought and and

2570
01:49:10,390 --> 01:49:08,400
how many have visited more than once how

2571
01:49:11,590 --> 01:49:10,400
many are hanging out here how many have

2572
01:49:14,070 --> 01:49:11,600
stayed

2573
01:49:16,550 --> 01:49:14,080
and i think that the number is a really

2574
01:49:18,470 --> 01:49:16,560
really big number it's not small it's

2575
01:49:20,950 --> 01:49:18,480
not two and it's not three

2576
01:49:21,750 --> 01:49:20,960
i think it's in the thousands adam

2577
01:49:23,589 --> 01:49:21,760
yeah

2578
01:49:25,830 --> 01:49:23,599
you know it's it's

2579
01:49:27,030 --> 01:49:25,840
fascinating especially when you start to

2580
01:49:29,430 --> 01:49:27,040
get into

2581
01:49:31,669 --> 01:49:29,440
cultural anthropology and you look at

2582
01:49:34,470 --> 01:49:31,679
how many cultures around the world have

2583
01:49:36,550 --> 01:49:34,480
described and and what most you know

2584
01:49:38,709 --> 01:49:36,560
archaeologists have just thought is i

2585
01:49:41,830 --> 01:49:38,719
must be mythology like they all just

2586
01:49:43,990 --> 01:49:41,840
have this idea that we're from the stars

2587
01:49:46,070 --> 01:49:44,000
and yet all of these cultures are pretty

2588
01:49:48,870 --> 01:49:46,080
explicit they're like our ancestors are

2589
01:49:51,350 --> 01:49:48,880
from that star you know or like you know

2590
01:49:53,350 --> 01:49:51,360
we we were taught by the star nations

2591
01:49:55,510 --> 01:49:53,360
this ritual you know the lakota dakota

2592
01:49:57,430 --> 01:49:55,520
nakota sioux they believe white buffalo

2593
01:49:59,589 --> 01:49:57,440
calf woman was a star nation ambassador

2594
01:50:02,550 --> 01:49:59,599
who came down to give them their seven

2595
01:50:03,350 --> 01:50:02,560
sacred rituals you have the maya who say

2596
01:50:06,709 --> 01:50:03,360
that

2597
01:50:09,030 --> 01:50:06,719
the four corn people of the earth the

2598
01:50:10,470 --> 01:50:09,040
red the yellow the white and the black

2599
01:50:12,709 --> 01:50:10,480
people these these

2600
01:50:15,030 --> 01:50:12,719
four corn colored people

2601
01:50:16,470 --> 01:50:15,040
are from the four corners of the great

2602
01:50:18,390 --> 01:50:16,480
river in the sky

2603
01:50:19,910 --> 01:50:18,400
this is their like you know translation

2604
01:50:22,229 --> 01:50:19,920
and they have them have maps of it you

2605
01:50:25,189 --> 01:50:22,239
know and the ecliptic plane and the the

2606
01:50:27,189 --> 01:50:25,199
galactic belt um you've got

2607
01:50:28,629 --> 01:50:27,199
all of these different civilizations the

2608
01:50:29,669 --> 01:50:28,639
tuatha didn't

2609
01:50:32,070 --> 01:50:29,679
we

2610
01:50:33,270 --> 01:50:32,080
the twathadenan came

2611
01:50:36,629 --> 01:50:33,280
as they said

2612
01:50:39,109 --> 01:50:36,639
to the british isles riding clouds

2613
01:50:41,990 --> 01:50:39,119
bringing with them the four sacred

2614
01:50:43,109 --> 01:50:42,000
treasures from the three islands in the

2615
01:50:47,990 --> 01:50:43,119
sky

2616
01:50:50,629 --> 01:50:48,000
right so we we dig into these different

2617
01:50:52,790 --> 01:50:50,639
cultures and we start to realize this is

2618
01:50:54,790 --> 01:50:52,800
not just a bunch of storytelling

2619
01:50:57,270 --> 01:50:54,800
mythology these aren't just beings

2620
01:50:59,270 --> 01:50:57,280
passing stories around the fire making

2621
01:51:02,390 --> 01:50:59,280
up that something happened back in the

2622
01:51:04,310 --> 01:51:02,400
day these are people passing the stories

2623
01:51:06,709 --> 01:51:04,320
of their ancestry the truth of their

2624
01:51:09,270 --> 01:51:06,719
origins and their connection to these

2625
01:51:11,589 --> 01:51:09,280
different planets and so it's it's more

2626
01:51:14,149 --> 01:51:11,599
than just being visited by star nations

2627
01:51:16,310 --> 01:51:14,159
jimmy it looks like to me

2628
01:51:17,109 --> 01:51:16,320
when we really dig into it

2629
01:51:19,990 --> 01:51:17,119
that

2630
01:51:22,310 --> 01:51:20,000
much of humanity is from the stars and

2631
01:51:25,990 --> 01:51:22,320
that we've been hybrids of other star

2632
01:51:28,149 --> 01:51:26,000
species for a long long time and that

2633
01:51:30,870 --> 01:51:28,159
we're all actually connected to this

2634
01:51:33,589 --> 01:51:30,880
greater galactic family of species these

2635
01:51:35,510 --> 01:51:33,599
aren't aliens these aren't even really

2636
01:51:37,109 --> 01:51:35,520
extraterrestrials because they're you're

2637
01:51:39,750 --> 01:51:37,119
here too

2638
01:51:42,950 --> 01:51:39,760
and and we're part of this much bigger

2639
01:51:45,669 --> 01:51:42,960
as i like to call it galactic family

2640
01:51:48,229 --> 01:51:45,679
is physics the same

2641
01:51:51,189 --> 01:51:48,239
throughout the universe

2642
01:51:54,070 --> 01:51:51,199
is physics the same okay and and

2643
01:51:56,149 --> 01:51:54,080
one idea behind this i just for some

2644
01:51:57,910 --> 01:51:56,159
reason i know i'm going to piss a lot of

2645
01:52:00,229 --> 01:51:57,920
people off

2646
01:52:02,790 --> 01:52:00,239
if we just go with the basics newtonian

2647
01:52:05,830 --> 01:52:02,800
physics gravity those calculations which

2648
01:52:07,430 --> 01:52:05,840
we still use today right okay we've got

2649
01:52:09,830 --> 01:52:07,440
to get to mars

2650
01:52:10,790 --> 01:52:09,840
isaac newton is is the one who's getting

2651
01:52:14,470 --> 01:52:10,800
us there

2652
01:52:16,790 --> 01:52:14,480
but is gravity and that measurement of

2653
01:52:18,709 --> 01:52:16,800
gravity as we understand it and how

2654
01:52:21,270 --> 01:52:18,719
isaac laid it out

2655
01:52:23,830 --> 01:52:21,280
is it the same throughout the universe

2656
01:52:26,310 --> 01:52:23,840
let alone our milky way is physics the

2657
01:52:28,950 --> 01:52:26,320
same everywhere

2658
01:52:31,510 --> 01:52:28,960
i would say that physics is the same

2659
01:52:33,510 --> 01:52:31,520
everywhere in our universe but

2660
01:52:36,149 --> 01:52:33,520
particular experiences of different

2661
01:52:37,910 --> 01:52:36,159
forces change everywhere you know the

2662
01:52:39,350 --> 01:52:37,920
mars has different gravity than the

2663
01:52:41,109 --> 01:52:39,360
earth

2664
01:52:42,790 --> 01:52:41,119
and all the planets in our solar system

2665
01:52:44,790 --> 01:52:42,800
have different levels of gravity based

2666
01:52:46,870 --> 01:52:44,800
on their size and their density and all

2667
01:52:49,350 --> 01:52:46,880
that stuff and so

2668
01:52:51,430 --> 01:52:49,360
is it possible that there are

2669
01:52:54,390 --> 01:52:51,440
planets in the goldilocks zone as you

2670
01:52:56,470 --> 01:52:54,400
say you know around this galaxy that

2671
01:52:58,790 --> 01:52:56,480
experience a very different physics and

2672
01:53:01,109 --> 01:52:58,800
evolution of species than us absolutely

2673
01:53:02,870 --> 01:53:01,119
yes some planets will have much heavier

2674
01:53:05,830 --> 01:53:02,880
gravitational fields

2675
01:53:08,550 --> 01:53:05,840
body types body strength body structure

2676
01:53:10,950 --> 01:53:08,560
is going to adapt to that you know

2677
01:53:12,950 --> 01:53:10,960
there's a sweet spot for gravity and

2678
01:53:15,430 --> 01:53:12,960
size of planet just like their sweet

2679
01:53:17,270 --> 01:53:15,440
spots for for other things you know the

2680
01:53:19,030 --> 01:53:17,280
amount of water the amount of light that

2681
01:53:19,750 --> 01:53:19,040
you know the sun's distance and all of

2682
01:53:21,510 --> 01:53:19,760
that

2683
01:53:24,310 --> 01:53:21,520
and and so

2684
01:53:25,589 --> 01:53:24,320
you know based on the kind of local

2685
01:53:28,070 --> 01:53:25,599
conditions

2686
01:53:30,629 --> 01:53:28,080
of a planet including by the way the

2687
01:53:34,070 --> 01:53:30,639
color of the star that they're around so

2688
01:53:36,629 --> 01:53:34,080
the pleiadians all have blue stars

2689
01:53:39,189 --> 01:53:36,639
around them right so

2690
01:53:41,750 --> 01:53:39,199
could it be a mistake or a coincidence

2691
01:53:43,830 --> 01:53:41,760
that the earliest people channeling the

2692
01:53:45,750 --> 01:53:43,840
pleiadians or having experiences and

2693
01:53:47,990 --> 01:53:45,760
visions with them all saw them as blue

2694
01:53:50,070 --> 01:53:48,000
skinned beings that these blue skinned

2695
01:53:52,229 --> 01:53:50,080
beings started telling them they're from

2696
01:53:54,629 --> 01:53:52,239
this star cluster

2697
01:53:57,030 --> 01:53:54,639
no it's not that coincidental because

2698
01:53:59,910 --> 01:53:57,040
that just makes sense that's physics you

2699
01:54:02,629 --> 01:53:59,920
know like you you adapt your skin

2700
01:54:05,030 --> 01:54:02,639
to meet the light of the star that you

2701
01:54:07,350 --> 01:54:05,040
have you know and your environment is

2702
01:54:10,790 --> 01:54:07,360
going to help determine that as well and

2703
01:54:13,750 --> 01:54:10,800
so so we have different skin types and

2704
01:54:16,550 --> 01:54:13,760
different body types and even you know

2705
01:54:19,030 --> 01:54:16,560
vastly different types beyond humanoid

2706
01:54:20,790 --> 01:54:19,040
that exist in different planets all

2707
01:54:23,430 --> 01:54:20,800
across this galaxy

2708
01:54:25,750 --> 01:54:23,440
that emerge from the physics of that

2709
01:54:27,350 --> 01:54:25,760
world although it's all the same it's

2710
01:54:29,830 --> 01:54:27,360
all the same physics it's just there's

2711
01:54:32,310 --> 01:54:29,840
different local physics that are going

2712
01:54:34,070 --> 01:54:32,320
on in that position and and so help me

2713
01:54:35,669 --> 01:54:34,080
understand this and we'll pick up when

2714
01:54:37,510 --> 01:54:35,679
we come back after the break we've got

2715
01:54:41,510 --> 01:54:37,520
about four minutes

2716
01:54:43,350 --> 01:54:41,520
in that our calculations that it doesn't

2717
01:54:46,070 --> 01:54:43,360
matter if we're talking about einstein

2718
01:54:48,550 --> 01:54:46,080
newton brian green string theory

2719
01:54:51,910 --> 01:54:48,560
our calculations and those algorithms

2720
01:54:54,149 --> 01:54:51,920
are based on our locality our

2721
01:54:56,870 --> 01:54:54,159
understanding of what gravity would mean

2722
01:54:59,750 --> 01:54:56,880
as you plug this in and these numbers

2723
01:55:01,510 --> 01:54:59,760
et arrives here and they start giving us

2724
01:55:03,830 --> 01:55:01,520
their information

2725
01:55:05,750 --> 01:55:03,840
but it is based on

2726
01:55:08,390 --> 01:55:05,760
their calculations and their

2727
01:55:10,390 --> 01:55:08,400
understanding of physics wherever they

2728
01:55:13,430 --> 01:55:10,400
are from right we couldn't necessarily

2729
01:55:15,990 --> 01:55:13,440
just plug in our numbers or understand

2730
01:55:18,390 --> 01:55:16,000
what they are trying to tell us

2731
01:55:21,510 --> 01:55:18,400
now is it because i'm just not that

2732
01:55:22,950 --> 01:55:21,520
smart or is that a consideration we have

2733
01:55:24,790 --> 01:55:22,960
to think about

2734
01:55:27,510 --> 01:55:24,800
um i think that what you're bringing

2735
01:55:29,510 --> 01:55:27,520
forward is a valid point in the

2736
01:55:32,310 --> 01:55:29,520
consideration of

2737
01:55:34,950 --> 01:55:32,320
understanding cultural perspectives

2738
01:55:37,270 --> 01:55:34,960
cultural dynamics the importance of

2739
01:55:39,189 --> 01:55:37,280
certain kinds of mathematical proofs the

2740
01:55:40,470 --> 01:55:39,199
certain approaches that these species

2741
01:55:43,350 --> 01:55:40,480
take

2742
01:55:45,510 --> 01:55:43,360
but i will say jimmy that you know there

2743
01:55:47,830 --> 01:55:45,520
are some foundations here we can go on

2744
01:55:50,550 --> 01:55:47,840
which is that you know when we talk

2745
01:55:53,750 --> 01:55:50,560
about a constant you know mathematical

2746
01:55:55,830 --> 01:55:53,760
constants for example um and we we deal

2747
01:55:58,310 --> 01:55:55,840
with physics constants that are based on

2748
01:56:00,470 --> 01:55:58,320
those mathematical constants essentially

2749
01:56:01,510 --> 01:56:00,480
what we're talking about is a universal

2750
01:56:04,229 --> 01:56:01,520
constant

2751
01:56:06,149 --> 01:56:04,239
something that exists the way it is and

2752
01:56:07,830 --> 01:56:06,159
operates the way it does regardless of

2753
01:56:09,189 --> 01:56:07,840
what planet you're on wherever you are

2754
01:56:11,910 --> 01:56:09,199
in the universe whatever part of the

2755
01:56:12,950 --> 01:56:11,920
galaxy it doesn't matter and certain

2756
01:56:15,430 --> 01:56:12,960
things

2757
01:56:17,910 --> 01:56:15,440
you can kind of logically immediately

2758
01:56:20,149 --> 01:56:17,920
come to the conclusion operate like that

2759
01:56:23,030 --> 01:56:20,159
like for example a circle

2760
01:56:25,350 --> 01:56:23,040
on earth is defined by the mathematical

2761
01:56:28,709 --> 01:56:25,360
constant of pi right

2762
01:56:30,870 --> 01:56:28,719
but a circle is a circle wherever it is

2763
01:56:34,229 --> 01:56:30,880
in the universe if you're measuring a

2764
01:56:36,790 --> 01:56:34,239
circular zone or a radius around a point

2765
01:56:38,790 --> 01:56:36,800
then essentially you're going to find pi

2766
01:56:41,030 --> 01:56:38,800
no matter where you are on whatever

2767
01:56:42,390 --> 01:56:41,040
planet in whatever star system the same

2768
01:56:44,470 --> 01:56:42,400
is true for phi

2769
01:56:46,550 --> 01:56:44,480
the same is true for alpha alpha

2770
01:56:49,669 --> 01:56:46,560
maceroni all of these mathematical

2771
01:56:51,910 --> 01:56:49,679
constants are connected to

2772
01:56:53,510 --> 01:56:51,920
fundamental dynamics in the physical

2773
01:56:56,470 --> 01:56:53,520
world and

2774
01:56:59,030 --> 01:56:56,480
these dynamics that we experience these

2775
01:57:01,510 --> 01:56:59,040
are universal language and so you could

2776
01:57:03,910 --> 01:57:01,520
say and i think there have been uh many

2777
01:57:06,070 --> 01:57:03,920
people over time that have said you know

2778
01:57:08,390 --> 01:57:06,080
mathematics is ultimately the universal

2779
01:57:09,910 --> 01:57:08,400
language and you know robert grant used

2780
01:57:11,270 --> 01:57:09,920
to say that a lot when i worked with him

2781
01:57:12,950 --> 01:57:11,280
and he's like you know everything comes

2782
01:57:15,189 --> 01:57:12,960
down to math if we want to talk to

2783
01:57:18,070 --> 01:57:15,199
galactic beings we need to know math and

2784
01:57:19,589 --> 01:57:18,080
he's like you know super arcturian dude

2785
01:57:21,510 --> 01:57:19,599
so he's like you know this stuff comes

2786
01:57:23,109 --> 01:57:21,520
from other star systems anyway we're

2787
01:57:25,350 --> 01:57:23,119
just solving the puzzles that are

2788
01:57:27,990 --> 01:57:25,360
already here and they're already part of

2789
01:57:30,470 --> 01:57:28,000
us and discovering more of who we are

2790
01:57:32,870 --> 01:57:30,480
and and so yeah like

2791
01:57:34,310 --> 01:57:32,880
mathematics is a fundamental to language

2792
01:57:37,270 --> 01:57:34,320
because if you

2793
01:57:38,470 --> 01:57:37,280
essentially take any you know three

2794
01:57:40,790 --> 01:57:38,480
things

2795
01:57:43,589 --> 01:57:40,800
everybody can agree that there's three

2796
01:57:45,589 --> 01:57:43,599
things you don't have to know english to

2797
01:57:49,350 --> 01:57:45,599
know there's three things you might call

2798
01:57:53,430 --> 01:57:49,360
the three things you know um

2799
01:57:55,669 --> 01:57:53,440
trois or you could call it like uh trese

2800
01:57:57,910 --> 01:57:55,679
or you could call it three or you could

2801
01:57:59,910 --> 01:57:57,920
call it you know any other language but

2802
01:58:01,430 --> 01:57:59,920
it's still three things

2803
01:58:03,270 --> 01:58:01,440
and a triangle is a triangle as a

2804
01:58:05,030 --> 01:58:03,280
triangle a circle is a circle a square

2805
01:58:08,229 --> 01:58:05,040
is a square it doesn't matter what

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01:58:10,390 --> 01:58:08,239
language you're talking about and so for

2807
01:58:13,030 --> 01:58:10,400
me and my work with with galactic

2808
01:58:15,350 --> 01:58:13,040
species and in developing contact

2809
01:58:17,910 --> 01:58:15,360
capacities and experiences i realized a

2810
01:58:20,310 --> 01:58:17,920
long time ago that a lot of it has to do

2811
01:58:21,589 --> 01:58:20,320
with light language in other words how

2812
01:58:26,070 --> 01:58:21,599
the mind

2813
01:58:29,109 --> 01:58:26,080
visualizes and sees geometry information

2814
01:58:31,589 --> 01:58:29,119
light harmonics meaning colors and that

2815
01:58:33,589 --> 01:58:31,599
that can contain so much more

2816
01:58:34,390 --> 01:58:33,599
information than just words that we

2817
01:58:35,910 --> 01:58:34,400
speak

2818
01:58:37,510 --> 01:58:35,920
it's almost like communicating with the

2819
01:58:39,910 --> 01:58:37,520
language of dreams

2820
01:58:42,229 --> 01:58:39,920
if you can see it and you could share

2821
01:58:45,430 --> 01:58:42,239
what you see with somebody else then

2822
01:58:48,070 --> 01:58:45,440
suddenly there is this deeper telepathic

2823
01:58:49,589 --> 01:58:48,080
communication that goes on and that

2824
01:58:51,430 --> 01:58:49,599
language is

2825
01:58:53,430 --> 01:58:51,440
essentially universal yeah it's

2826
01:58:55,910 --> 01:58:53,440
vibration it's not words from the

2827
01:58:58,149 --> 01:58:55,920
webster dictionary where we find

2828
01:59:00,310 --> 01:58:58,159
ourselves completely limited as a matter

2829
01:59:02,950 --> 01:59:00,320
of fact we're using the wrong words all

2830
01:59:04,629 --> 01:59:02,960
the time to describe the situation let's

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01:59:06,870 --> 01:59:04,639
take our break right here this is fade

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01:59:08,229 --> 01:59:06,880
to black i guess tonight adam apollo

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01:59:09,270 --> 01:59:08,239
we're talking about the physics of

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01:59:11,830 --> 01:59:09,280
everything

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01:59:13,270 --> 01:59:11,840
what would an extraterrestrial

2836
01:59:15,990 --> 01:59:13,280
civilization

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01:59:17,830 --> 01:59:16,000
use to get here to travel the stars all

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01:59:23,260 --> 01:59:17,840
of that and much more when we come back

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02:04:09,189 --> 02:03:58,070
on the game changer radio network

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[Music]

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02:04:13,430 --> 02:04:11,599
all right welcome back fade to black i

2928
02:04:15,990 --> 02:04:13,440
am your host jimmy church our guest

2929
02:04:18,149 --> 02:04:16,000
tonight adam apollo

2930
02:04:20,550 --> 02:04:18,159
and and we're talking about the physics

2931
02:04:23,189 --> 02:04:20,560
of extraterrestrial civilizations i was

2932
02:04:24,950 --> 02:04:23,199
watching adam in the chat and and here's

2933
02:04:26,790 --> 02:04:24,960
the deal adam uh

2934
02:04:29,510 --> 02:04:26,800
they're they're they're trying to seize

2935
02:04:32,470 --> 02:04:29,520
control of this show oh no

2936
02:04:34,629 --> 02:04:32,480
no no it stays right here i ask the

2937
02:04:35,990 --> 02:04:34,639
questions but

2938
02:04:38,709 --> 02:04:36,000
um

2939
02:04:41,109 --> 02:04:38,719
there's one thing that i get a little

2940
02:04:42,310 --> 02:04:41,119
bit confused about i get confused about

2941
02:04:43,510 --> 02:04:42,320
a lot of things

2942
02:04:45,910 --> 02:04:43,520
but um

2943
02:04:49,589 --> 02:04:45,920
we now know

2944
02:04:51,669 --> 02:04:49,599
that the universe space is expanding

2945
02:04:53,030 --> 02:04:51,679
at faster than the speed of light and

2946
02:04:54,790 --> 02:04:53,040
depending on where you are in the

2947
02:04:56,950 --> 02:04:54,800
universe it may be a little less than

2948
02:04:59,589 --> 02:04:56,960
the speed of light and then there's an

2949
02:05:01,669 --> 02:04:59,599
event horizon going on out there in at

2950
02:05:04,069 --> 02:05:01,679
the edge of the universe uh faster than

2951
02:05:07,910 --> 02:05:04,079
the speed of light galaxies are dropping

2952
02:05:08,709 --> 02:05:07,920
off and from our point here

2953
02:05:10,790 --> 02:05:08,719
uh

2954
02:05:12,950 --> 02:05:10,800
we don't even know the size of the

2955
02:05:15,350 --> 02:05:12,960
universe if it's expanding at the speed

2956
02:05:17,669 --> 02:05:15,360
of light and things are moving away from

2957
02:05:19,669 --> 02:05:17,679
us we no longer see that

2958
02:05:21,910 --> 02:05:19,679
and that so that's a very intriguing

2959
02:05:23,109 --> 02:05:21,920
part for me but this is what i don't

2960
02:05:26,629 --> 02:05:23,119
understand

2961
02:05:27,510 --> 02:05:26,639
if space is expanding at the speed of

2962
02:05:29,270 --> 02:05:27,520
light

2963
02:05:33,030 --> 02:05:29,280
what happens

2964
02:05:34,550 --> 02:05:33,040
relative uh to that position versus our

2965
02:05:37,510 --> 02:05:34,560
position

2966
02:05:38,870 --> 02:05:37,520
what is what is going on with physics at

2967
02:05:41,350 --> 02:05:38,880
at that point

2968
02:05:44,470 --> 02:05:41,360
right if it is it you know if you're

2969
02:05:46,629 --> 02:05:44,480
relative there yeah uh the best way to

2970
02:05:47,990 --> 02:05:46,639
explain it the way that i understand if

2971
02:05:49,669 --> 02:05:48,000
you're traveling down a river you're

2972
02:05:51,910 --> 02:05:49,679
next to another boat

2973
02:05:55,030 --> 02:05:51,920
okay all right you guys are traveling at

2974
02:05:57,510 --> 02:05:55,040
the same speed so if we are in that

2975
02:05:58,709 --> 02:05:57,520
position of the universe

2976
02:06:01,990 --> 02:05:58,719
we are

2977
02:06:04,870 --> 02:06:02,000
expanding and moving on along in space

2978
02:06:07,430 --> 02:06:04,880
with so it's not we're not moving at the

2979
02:06:09,270 --> 02:06:07,440
speed of light we're not seeing things

2980
02:06:12,390 --> 02:06:09,280
drop off and we are traveling at the

2981
02:06:15,189 --> 02:06:12,400
same speed but from our perspective

2982
02:06:17,750 --> 02:06:15,199
looking out it's not the same what

2983
02:06:19,510 --> 02:06:17,760
happens to physics then as we understand

2984
02:06:21,510 --> 02:06:19,520
it

2985
02:06:23,750 --> 02:06:21,520
yeah well there's a whole bunch of

2986
02:06:26,149 --> 02:06:23,760
issues and and problems with this whole

2987
02:06:28,149 --> 02:06:26,159
approach it gets a lot deeper and more

2988
02:06:31,510 --> 02:06:28,159
complicated um

2989
02:06:32,709 --> 02:06:31,520
because a lot of our study of universal

2990
02:06:35,030 --> 02:06:32,719
expansion

2991
02:06:38,069 --> 02:06:35,040
uh is essentially based on

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02:06:40,870 --> 02:06:38,079
one fundamental assumption which is that

2993
02:06:43,270 --> 02:06:40,880
all redshift is occurring

2994
02:06:44,870 --> 02:06:43,280
due to space times expansion and the

2995
02:06:47,589 --> 02:06:44,880
objects are moving away from us because

2996
02:06:48,629 --> 02:06:47,599
of space time expanding

2997
02:06:51,510 --> 02:06:48,639
which is

2998
02:06:54,229 --> 02:06:51,520
a perfectly logical and potentially true

2999
02:06:57,510 --> 02:06:54,239
scenario there are also

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02:06:59,830 --> 02:06:57,520
of course other scenarios for redshift

3001
02:07:02,870 --> 02:06:59,840
that we could be witnessing

3002
02:07:04,870 --> 02:07:02,880
for example we noticed that

3003
02:07:07,510 --> 02:07:04,880
expansion and contraction of spacetime

3004
02:07:08,790 --> 02:07:07,520
in other words gravitational lensing

3005
02:07:11,430 --> 02:07:08,800
can affect

3006
02:07:12,950 --> 02:07:11,440
redshift and blueshift so

3007
02:07:15,270 --> 02:07:12,960
some of our calculations could be

3008
02:07:17,910 --> 02:07:15,280
distorted by gravitational lensing

3009
02:07:19,990 --> 02:07:17,920
within space-time um

3010
02:07:23,350 --> 02:07:20,000
the other problem is that when we look

3011
02:07:25,510 --> 02:07:23,360
distantly into any point space in the

3012
02:07:28,069 --> 02:07:25,520
universe you pick a pinpoint in the sky

3013
02:07:30,550 --> 02:07:28,079
you zoom in on it you look at it

3014
02:07:33,589 --> 02:07:30,560
you are looking into the past

3015
02:07:35,669 --> 02:07:33,599
and as we look into the past and we zoom

3016
02:07:37,910 --> 02:07:35,679
in we see like thousands of galaxies in

3017
02:07:39,910 --> 02:07:37,920
a tiny pin prick in the sky and we zoom

3018
02:07:42,069 --> 02:07:39,920
in closer and closer and closer the

3019
02:07:43,669 --> 02:07:42,079
farthest we can see the deepest deep

3020
02:07:45,750 --> 02:07:43,679
field images

3021
02:07:48,629 --> 02:07:45,760
we're essentially seeing

3022
02:07:50,950 --> 02:07:48,639
so far back in time that we should be

3023
02:07:52,229 --> 02:07:50,960
looking at the origins of the universe

3024
02:07:53,430 --> 02:07:52,239
right

3025
02:07:55,830 --> 02:07:53,440
and so

3026
02:07:59,270 --> 02:07:55,840
but what is the origins of the universe

3027
02:08:00,790 --> 02:07:59,280
in that direction in that vector right

3028
02:08:02,709 --> 02:08:00,800
like i want you to take account for the

3029
02:08:03,750 --> 02:08:02,719
fact that you're looking in a particular

3030
02:08:05,030 --> 02:08:03,760
vector

3031
02:08:07,669 --> 02:08:05,040
in space

3032
02:08:09,510 --> 02:08:07,679
looking back in time because light is

3033
02:08:11,830 --> 02:08:09,520
having to travel from those things all

3034
02:08:14,790 --> 02:08:11,840
the way to us but

3035
02:08:16,390 --> 02:08:14,800
if this if the universe is expanding

3036
02:08:19,030 --> 02:08:16,400
faster than the speed of light in this

3037
02:08:21,109 --> 02:08:19,040
massive expansion process well then that

3038
02:08:23,109 --> 02:08:21,119
light would have left those things a lot

3039
02:08:25,109 --> 02:08:23,119
earlier wouldn't it

3040
02:08:27,430 --> 02:08:25,119
because if the universe is expanding

3041
02:08:30,390 --> 02:08:27,440
that light would have gotten to us long

3042
02:08:31,910 --> 02:08:30,400
before this object is even farther away

3043
02:08:35,189 --> 02:08:31,920
correct so

3044
02:08:37,830 --> 02:08:35,199
everything is in this highly dynamic

3045
02:08:40,709 --> 02:08:37,840
relative motion to everything else i

3046
02:08:43,589 --> 02:08:40,719
mean even the idea of how fast we're

3047
02:08:45,910 --> 02:08:43,599
moving is kind of a ridiculous thing to

3048
02:08:48,390 --> 02:08:45,920
even start to construct because for

3049
02:08:50,229 --> 02:08:48,400
example right now this is one of the

3050
02:08:52,229 --> 02:08:50,239
thought experience i love to play with

3051
02:08:54,229 --> 02:08:52,239
my students and you know your audience

3052
02:08:56,709 --> 02:08:54,239
will probably dig it it's like if you're

3053
02:08:59,430 --> 02:08:56,719
sitting down listening to this

3054
02:09:01,510 --> 02:08:59,440
and you're facing east on that couch or

3055
02:09:03,030 --> 02:09:01,520
in that chair or wherever you're like

3056
02:09:05,270 --> 02:09:03,040
tuning into this thing

3057
02:09:08,390 --> 02:09:05,280
you are literally riding the surface of

3058
02:09:10,390 --> 02:09:08,400
the earth a thousand miles an hour in

3059
02:09:12,870 --> 02:09:10,400
the direction towards the sunrise right

3060
02:09:15,030 --> 02:09:12,880
now you're just cruising along

3061
02:09:16,550 --> 02:09:15,040
right oh boy the flat earthers had a fun

3062
02:09:18,550 --> 02:09:16,560
one with this one because they're like

3063
02:09:21,189 --> 02:09:18,560
oh my god well that would mean the

3064
02:09:22,950 --> 02:09:21,199
oceans would fly off the earth right if

3065
02:09:24,870 --> 02:09:22,960
the earth was round it was like

3066
02:09:26,870 --> 02:09:24,880
everything's gonna fly off of it because

3067
02:09:29,350 --> 02:09:26,880
it's the spinning ball these stupid

3068
02:09:31,430 --> 02:09:29,360
people right is what they say to the

3069
02:09:32,950 --> 02:09:31,440
physicists and the scientists and the

3070
02:09:34,390 --> 02:09:32,960
physicists and the scientists are going

3071
02:09:36,229 --> 02:09:34,400
uh

3072
02:09:38,149 --> 02:09:36,239
i don't think you realize just how big

3073
02:09:44,229 --> 02:09:38,159
the earth is

3074
02:09:46,950 --> 02:09:44,239
feeling that you have when you drop your

3075
02:09:50,229 --> 02:09:46,960
arm yes that's enough to keep the oceans

3076
02:09:52,550 --> 02:09:50,239
down because the oceans weigh

3077
02:09:54,629 --> 02:09:52,560
you know hundreds of trillions of pounds

3078
02:09:57,109 --> 02:09:54,639
you know essentially so like there's

3079
02:09:59,109 --> 02:09:57,119
like massive amount of weight there

3080
02:10:01,030 --> 02:09:59,119
and so we're traveling a thousand miles

3081
02:10:03,109 --> 02:10:01,040
an hour but we can't even tell because

3082
02:10:05,510 --> 02:10:03,119
all of the space time including the air

3083
02:10:08,629 --> 02:10:05,520
the atmosphere all the way out to the

3084
02:10:10,629 --> 02:10:08,639
outer atmosphere new spheric level is is

3085
02:10:12,790 --> 02:10:10,639
essentially traveling with the earth

3086
02:10:15,350 --> 02:10:12,800
space is moving with the surface of the

3087
02:10:17,910 --> 02:10:15,360
earth traveling right but we're also

3088
02:10:20,310 --> 02:10:17,920
hurtling around the sun

3089
02:10:22,870 --> 02:10:20,320
at 64 000 miles an hour

3090
02:10:24,870 --> 02:10:22,880
right so we're like cruising around the

3091
02:10:26,709 --> 02:10:24,880
sun it might be 67 i can't remember

3092
02:10:28,790 --> 02:10:26,719
exactly the numbers all the time but

3093
02:10:31,109 --> 02:10:28,800
we're cruising around the sun

3094
02:10:33,109 --> 02:10:31,119
you know we're going faster in our

3095
02:10:34,550 --> 02:10:33,119
traveling around the sun than any of us

3096
02:10:37,430 --> 02:10:34,560
have even imagined that we could

3097
02:10:40,390 --> 02:10:37,440
possibly go right and then there's a new

3098
02:10:42,149 --> 02:10:40,400
estimate for the earth or the sun

3099
02:10:43,109 --> 02:10:42,159
traveling around like the speed of the

3100
02:10:44,950 --> 02:10:43,119
sun

3101
02:10:46,790 --> 02:10:44,960
around the galaxy i'll have to look this

3102
02:10:48,229 --> 02:10:46,800
one up because there's actually a new

3103
02:10:51,669 --> 02:10:48,239
estimate for this

3104
02:10:56,149 --> 02:10:51,679
but yeah it's essentially believed to be

3105
02:10:59,430 --> 02:10:56,159
around 150 miles a second

3106
02:11:00,709 --> 02:10:59,440
that's that's half a million miles an

3107
02:11:05,910 --> 02:11:00,719
hour

3108
02:11:09,189 --> 02:11:05,920
cruising around the galaxy but why don't

3109
02:11:10,870 --> 02:11:09,199
we notice we can't tell because space is

3110
02:11:13,589 --> 02:11:10,880
huge

3111
02:11:16,229 --> 02:11:13,599
and we're all co-moving and the space

3112
02:11:19,510 --> 02:11:16,239
around the sun is moving it's not just

3113
02:11:22,229 --> 02:11:19,520
the sun moving through space it's space

3114
02:11:24,870 --> 02:11:22,239
moving and the sun is moving with it and

3115
02:11:27,189 --> 02:11:24,880
all of the space is vortexing around the

3116
02:11:29,830 --> 02:11:27,199
sun and all the planets are moving in

3117
02:11:31,910 --> 02:11:29,840
that space and all the moons are moving

3118
02:11:33,189 --> 02:11:31,920
in that space it's like a bunch of

3119
02:11:35,030 --> 02:11:33,199
whirlpools

3120
02:11:36,470 --> 02:11:35,040
around black holes

3121
02:11:38,790 --> 02:11:36,480
all traveling

3122
02:11:41,669 --> 02:11:38,800
you know in this incredible dance that's

3123
02:11:44,310 --> 02:11:41,679
moving extraordinarily fast all the time

3124
02:11:46,629 --> 02:11:44,320
and so how fast is the galaxy moving

3125
02:11:49,189 --> 02:11:46,639
related to the laniakea cluster i don't

3126
02:11:50,709 --> 02:11:49,199
think there's a really good exact number

3127
02:11:52,390 --> 02:11:50,719
i think there's some rough estimates on

3128
02:11:54,950 --> 02:11:52,400
that one

3129
02:11:58,310 --> 02:11:54,960
and so if you continue adding that up

3130
02:11:59,830 --> 02:11:58,320
and looking at universal expansion

3131
02:12:01,430 --> 02:11:59,840
are we going the speed of light is

3132
02:12:03,510 --> 02:12:01,440
everything going the speed of light what

3133
02:12:05,510 --> 02:12:03,520
the heck is the speed of light how do

3134
02:12:06,709 --> 02:12:05,520
you even relatively

3135
02:12:09,430 --> 02:12:06,719
understand

3136
02:12:11,270 --> 02:12:09,440
light speed versus anything else when

3137
02:12:12,950 --> 02:12:11,280
everything is moving relative to

3138
02:12:16,069 --> 02:12:12,960
everything else this is getting

3139
02:12:17,189 --> 02:12:16,079
philosophical right but essentially we

3140
02:12:18,149 --> 02:12:17,199
know

3141
02:12:21,589 --> 02:12:18,159
only

3142
02:12:23,109 --> 02:12:21,599
that light moves at a certain speed that

3143
02:12:25,109 --> 02:12:23,119
we perceive

3144
02:12:26,310 --> 02:12:25,119
relative to us

3145
02:12:27,990 --> 02:12:26,320
that's it

3146
02:12:30,390 --> 02:12:28,000
that's all we really know

3147
02:12:31,350 --> 02:12:30,400
that it changes when you put it in water

3148
02:12:33,990 --> 02:12:31,360
you know

3149
02:12:37,030 --> 02:12:34,000
but but but that's what we can know

3150
02:12:39,589 --> 02:12:37,040
because we are in relativity to

3151
02:12:41,910 --> 02:12:39,599
everything else including light and most

3152
02:12:43,990 --> 02:12:41,920
especially light because as we know

3153
02:12:46,229 --> 02:12:44,000
light operates very differently than

3154
02:12:48,629 --> 02:12:46,239
everything else it's perceived as going

3155
02:12:51,109 --> 02:12:48,639
the same speed no matter how fast you're

3156
02:12:54,229 --> 02:12:51,119
going and that's because space-time

3157
02:12:56,310 --> 02:12:54,239
itself is dilating time and bending

3158
02:12:58,390 --> 02:12:56,320
light the curvature of space is

3159
02:13:00,790 --> 02:12:58,400
affecting all of this

3160
02:13:08,629 --> 02:13:00,800
so if we if

3161
02:13:12,629 --> 02:13:11,030
okay but there's always a but okay so

3162
02:13:15,109 --> 02:13:12,639
you and i

3163
02:13:18,310 --> 02:13:15,119
are on a starship at the edge of the

3164
02:13:20,870 --> 02:13:18,320
universe where the expansion is

3165
02:13:23,669 --> 02:13:20,880
happening faster than the speed of light

3166
02:13:24,709 --> 02:13:23,679
and we turn around and head towards

3167
02:13:28,470 --> 02:13:24,719
earth

3168
02:13:31,990 --> 02:13:28,480
are we now swimming upstream

3169
02:13:33,430 --> 02:13:32,000
if it's true that space-time itself is

3170
02:13:35,430 --> 02:13:33,440
expanding

3171
02:13:36,709 --> 02:13:35,440
faster than the speed of light relative

3172
02:13:38,390 --> 02:13:36,719
to us

3173
02:13:40,310 --> 02:13:38,400
then you would have to be traveling

3174
02:13:42,550 --> 02:13:40,320
faster than the speed of light to reach

3175
02:13:45,990 --> 02:13:42,560
our area of the universe and in fact the

3176
02:13:48,069 --> 02:13:46,000
light of our star will never

3177
02:13:50,390 --> 02:13:48,079
get there not at some point it will

3178
02:13:52,950 --> 02:13:50,400
never get there meaning that if there is

3179
02:13:55,830 --> 02:13:52,960
space time moving away from us faster

3180
02:13:57,030 --> 02:13:55,840
than the speed of light we cannot know

3181
02:13:58,709 --> 02:13:57,040
that

3182
02:14:01,189 --> 02:13:58,719
by observing

3183
02:14:03,990 --> 02:14:01,199
in other words we cannot ever look at

3184
02:14:06,310 --> 02:14:04,000
that area of the universe and see that

3185
02:14:08,149 --> 02:14:06,320
happening this is why this is only

3186
02:14:09,990 --> 02:14:08,159
theoretical that's what i'm getting at

3187
02:14:12,870 --> 02:14:10,000
the philosophy here is that's only

3188
02:14:15,189 --> 02:14:12,880
theoretical because that would exist

3189
02:14:17,109 --> 02:14:15,199
outside of our light cone of perception

3190
02:14:19,189 --> 02:14:17,119
and the only way we could actually prove

3191
02:14:22,629 --> 02:14:19,199
that relativity is happening is if we

3192
02:14:23,990 --> 02:14:22,639
could jump to that location and as far

3193
02:14:26,709 --> 02:14:24,000
as i can tell

3194
02:14:28,709 --> 02:14:26,719
you know even jumping between galaxies

3195
02:14:32,229 --> 02:14:28,719
is extraordinarily difficult because you

3196
02:14:34,950 --> 02:14:32,239
need reference points in that galaxy to

3197
02:14:36,550 --> 02:14:34,960
be able to jump to you need pulsars you

3198
02:14:38,950 --> 02:14:36,560
need to be able to actually pick out a

3199
02:14:40,950 --> 02:14:38,960
specific lighthouse and if you've ever

3200
02:14:44,709 --> 02:14:40,960
looked at the andromeda galaxy like in a

3201
02:14:47,750 --> 02:14:44,719
telescope i mean those stars are so

3202
02:14:51,430 --> 02:14:47,760
small and so far away it's a tiny little

3203
02:14:53,270 --> 02:14:51,440
blur you know it's it's out of focus

3204
02:14:56,870 --> 02:14:53,280
okay but

3205
02:15:00,069 --> 02:14:56,880
what would you and i see

3206
02:15:02,310 --> 02:15:00,079
if we were at a section of the universe

3207
02:15:03,990 --> 02:15:02,320
that is expanding faster than the speed

3208
02:15:06,790 --> 02:15:04,000
of light

3209
02:15:09,830 --> 02:15:06,800
when would we see earth when would we

3210
02:15:13,109 --> 02:15:09,840
see our own star system what would we

3211
02:15:15,669 --> 02:15:13,119
have to cross in order to catch up to

3212
02:15:18,550 --> 02:15:15,679
the light this is so confusing to me i

3213
02:15:21,430 --> 02:15:18,560
mean i just don't yeah i i i don't get

3214
02:15:24,870 --> 02:15:21,440
it because that's a tough one from here

3215
02:15:27,910 --> 02:15:24,880
on earth right looking out yeah we're

3216
02:15:29,189 --> 02:15:27,920
only seeing the light that has reached

3217
02:15:32,870 --> 02:15:29,199
us over

3218
02:15:36,069 --> 02:15:32,880
uh a 13.8 billion year period

3219
02:15:37,350 --> 02:15:36,079
but if it is expanding past the speed of

3220
02:15:39,510 --> 02:15:37,360
light

3221
02:15:41,430 --> 02:15:39,520
we're not seeing that right so we would

3222
02:15:43,750 --> 02:15:41,440
have to see it on the inside of that

3223
02:15:46,470 --> 02:15:43,760
frame that's right that's right yeah you

3224
02:15:49,669 --> 02:15:46,480
can imagine it like um you can imagine

3225
02:15:50,390 --> 02:15:49,679
it like like these are two light cones

3226
02:15:52,310 --> 02:15:50,400
right

3227
02:15:54,069 --> 02:15:52,320
and you're you know we're at the bottom

3228
02:15:55,990 --> 02:15:54,079
of one of these light cones anything

3229
02:15:58,790 --> 02:15:56,000
that's within this light cone

3230
02:16:01,910 --> 02:15:58,800
can be perceived by us at some point in

3231
02:16:04,550 --> 02:16:01,920
time right but anything that's outside

3232
02:16:05,510 --> 02:16:04,560
that light cone we can't

3233
02:16:09,750 --> 02:16:05,520
and so

3234
02:16:11,910 --> 02:16:09,760
some position on a starship that is

3235
02:16:13,750 --> 02:16:11,920
literally so far across the universe and

3236
02:16:17,430 --> 02:16:13,760
we're saying it's theoretically in a

3237
02:16:20,390 --> 02:16:17,440
zone of the universe that is moving away

3238
02:16:22,470 --> 02:16:20,400
from our solar system faster than the

3239
02:16:25,430 --> 02:16:22,480
speed of light then essentially those

3240
02:16:28,709 --> 02:16:25,440
light cones are angled like this

3241
02:16:32,150 --> 02:16:28,719
you will never ever be able to see

3242
02:16:34,709 --> 02:16:32,160
that other star ever it will not happen

3243
02:16:36,870 --> 02:16:34,719
because you're literally moving away

3244
02:16:38,790 --> 02:16:36,880
faster than the light can travel

3245
02:16:41,110 --> 02:16:38,800
and so you can imagine the light

3246
02:16:43,270 --> 02:16:41,120
standing still and this is the place

3247
02:16:44,950 --> 02:16:43,280
moving away and here's the earth and the

3248
02:16:46,469 --> 02:16:44,960
light's traveling but the space keeps

3249
02:16:48,469 --> 02:16:46,479
expanding so it's moving at the speed of

3250
02:16:51,190 --> 02:16:48,479
light but the space is still expanding

3251
02:16:54,070 --> 02:16:51,200
so it's never going to get there

3252
02:16:56,469 --> 02:16:54,080
and so for e.t to know that we are here

3253
02:16:58,709 --> 02:16:56,479
they have to be inside of the

3254
02:17:00,709 --> 02:16:58,719
observational universe

3255
02:17:03,509 --> 02:17:00,719
in order to see that light that hasn't

3256
02:17:06,629 --> 02:17:03,519
expanded out beyond

3257
02:17:09,349 --> 02:17:06,639
the observational universe yeah and even

3258
02:17:10,870 --> 02:17:09,359
more importantly jimmy um in general

3259
02:17:13,469 --> 02:17:10,880
what we're talking about when we talk

3260
02:17:17,270 --> 02:17:13,479
about extraterrestrial civilizations

3261
02:17:20,709 --> 02:17:17,280
95 to 99 of the time we're talking about

3262
02:17:25,030 --> 02:17:20,719
civilizations in stars around our home

3263
02:17:27,030 --> 02:17:25,040
galaxy and our home galaxy is all in one

3264
02:17:29,830 --> 02:17:27,040
gravitational relationship we're all

3265
02:17:32,150 --> 02:17:29,840
circling the same center we're all still

3266
02:17:34,629 --> 02:17:32,160
within 100 you know 100 000 light years

3267
02:17:35,429 --> 02:17:34,639
of each other going out to the rim

3268
02:17:39,190 --> 02:17:35,439
and

3269
02:17:41,030 --> 02:17:39,200
talking like 15

3270
02:17:43,830 --> 02:17:41,040
like you know light years up and down in

3271
02:17:46,790 --> 02:17:43,840
a lot of cases you know essentially

3272
02:17:48,469 --> 02:17:46,800
the milky way is a disc yes and

3273
02:17:52,629 --> 02:17:48,479
theoretically right now we're looking at

3274
02:17:53,990 --> 02:17:52,639
about 100 150 000 light years across

3275
02:17:54,950 --> 02:17:54,000
the milky way

3276
02:17:59,030 --> 02:17:54,960
so

3277
02:18:01,990 --> 02:17:59,040
um what about visitations from andromeda

3278
02:18:03,910 --> 02:18:02,000
yeah exactly that is

3279
02:18:05,990 --> 02:18:03,920
now we're pushing

3280
02:18:08,389 --> 02:18:06,000
something that theoretically probably

3281
02:18:10,950 --> 02:18:08,399
isn't possible a visitor from andromeda

3282
02:18:13,030 --> 02:18:10,960
to here it's it's not theoretically

3283
02:18:15,830 --> 02:18:13,040
impossible because andromeda is actually

3284
02:18:17,669 --> 02:18:15,840
extremely close to our galaxy from a

3285
02:18:19,830 --> 02:18:17,679
galactic perspective

3286
02:18:22,389 --> 02:18:19,840
and could there be enough

3287
02:18:25,589 --> 02:18:22,399
uh pulsar beacons things like that

3288
02:18:26,549 --> 02:18:25,599
between andromeda and us

3289
02:18:31,070 --> 02:18:26,559
maybe

3290
02:18:33,990 --> 02:18:31,080
like

3291
02:18:35,669 --> 02:18:34,000
intergalactic travel at the mechanism

3292
02:18:37,349 --> 02:18:35,679
that i physically worked out all the

3293
02:18:38,389 --> 02:18:37,359
details of how this thing could actually

3294
02:18:41,190 --> 02:18:38,399
work

3295
02:18:43,669 --> 02:18:41,200
is it challenges that theory of mine

3296
02:18:46,469 --> 02:18:43,679
because it says it says wow how would

3297
02:18:49,589 --> 02:18:46,479
you pick up beacons in another galaxy

3298
02:18:53,349 --> 02:18:49,599
necessarily but then again that's still

3299
02:18:56,309 --> 02:18:53,359
assuming you don't have the super

3300
02:18:59,270 --> 02:18:56,319
advanced telescopic

3301
02:19:01,589 --> 02:18:59,280
measurement materials of a civilization

3302
02:19:04,870 --> 02:19:01,599
that's evolved a thousand years beyond

3303
02:19:07,669 --> 02:19:04,880
us right so maybe they're in andromeda

3304
02:19:10,070 --> 02:19:07,679
and able to zoom right in to the milky

3305
02:19:12,230 --> 02:19:10,080
way all the way up to different stars

3306
02:19:15,030 --> 02:19:12,240
and measure the pulsars track those

3307
02:19:18,389 --> 02:19:15,040
beacons determine all of that because i

3308
02:19:20,389 --> 02:19:18,399
mean our our ability to see into space

3309
02:19:23,110 --> 02:19:20,399
just the fact that we can take pictures

3310
02:19:25,110 --> 02:19:23,120
of galaxies as clearly as we do and that

3311
02:19:27,750 --> 02:19:25,120
we can actually pick a pin prick in the

3312
02:19:29,509 --> 02:19:27,760
sky and zoom in and see thousands of

3313
02:19:31,990 --> 02:19:29,519
galaxies in that picture

3314
02:19:35,110 --> 02:19:32,000
like our observation abilities have come

3315
02:19:37,030 --> 02:19:35,120
a long way since you know mr galileo and

3316
02:19:40,709 --> 02:19:37,040
copernicus and these guys with their you

3317
02:19:44,309 --> 02:19:40,719
know telescopes and so we can imagine a

3318
02:19:47,990 --> 02:19:44,319
huge evolutionary leaps in planetary

3319
02:19:50,550 --> 02:19:48,000
visualization mapping galactic mapping

3320
02:19:51,750 --> 02:19:50,560
um that happen especially as a species

3321
02:19:54,230 --> 02:19:51,760
becomes

3322
02:19:56,870 --> 02:19:54,240
galactic in its capacity to travel

3323
02:19:58,870 --> 02:19:56,880
between stars and then of course to the

3324
02:20:02,630 --> 02:19:58,880
intergalactic scale

3325
02:20:04,630 --> 02:20:02,640
what an amazing conversation and i i

3326
02:20:08,630 --> 02:20:04,640
wanted to ask you

3327
02:20:09,349 --> 02:20:08,640
uh about things like the tic-tac

3328
02:20:12,710 --> 02:20:09,359
but

3329
02:20:15,190 --> 02:20:12,720
when i say the tic tac we've also had uh

3330
02:20:18,230 --> 02:20:15,200
sightings for millions of people i i'm

3331
02:20:20,389 --> 02:20:18,240
i'm one of those and so are you

3332
02:20:23,750 --> 02:20:20,399
so it's not just the tic tac

3333
02:20:24,630 --> 02:20:23,760
but the tic tac is an interesting

3334
02:20:27,110 --> 02:20:24,640
uh

3335
02:20:29,030 --> 02:20:27,120
subject to bring up because of the

3336
02:20:30,469 --> 02:20:29,040
military aspect the professional

3337
02:20:31,349 --> 02:20:30,479
observations

3338
02:20:36,070 --> 02:20:31,359
and

3339
02:20:37,670 --> 02:20:36,080
uh the amount of witnesses that were

3340
02:20:41,429 --> 02:20:37,680
involved with that

3341
02:20:44,230 --> 02:20:41,439
do you see the tic tac as interplanetary

3342
02:20:45,590 --> 02:20:44,240
and is it like a von neumann probe that

3343
02:20:47,910 --> 02:20:45,600
was sent here

3344
02:20:48,870 --> 02:20:47,920
to observe the planet or are we talking

3345
02:20:51,030 --> 02:20:48,880
about something that may have

3346
02:20:52,630 --> 02:20:51,040
terrestrial origins

3347
02:20:56,389 --> 02:20:52,640
yeah i mean it could be a variety of

3348
02:20:58,070 --> 02:20:56,399
things i think that it prob most likely

3349
02:21:00,309 --> 02:20:58,080
we're talking about an inner

3350
02:21:02,070 --> 02:21:00,319
interstellar craft that's visiting a

3351
02:21:04,309 --> 02:21:02,080
probe of some kind or maybe even just

3352
02:21:06,309 --> 02:21:04,319
like a full-on ship that just doesn't

3353
02:21:09,670 --> 02:21:06,319
have any visible windows uses different

3354
02:21:12,309 --> 02:21:09,680
kinds of observation materials right um

3355
02:21:14,230 --> 02:21:12,319
you know i i'll do a little plug for our

3356
02:21:17,190 --> 02:21:14,240
friend caroline corey you know because

3357
02:21:18,469 --> 02:21:17,200
her film is coming out soon that a tear

3358
02:21:23,030 --> 02:21:18,479
in the sky

3359
02:21:25,429 --> 02:21:23,040
she essentially set up

3360
02:21:27,750 --> 02:21:25,439
a top-of-the-line scientific

3361
02:21:31,030 --> 02:21:27,760
observational equipment

3362
02:21:32,070 --> 02:21:31,040
in a triangle uh essentially kind of

3363
02:21:34,309 --> 02:21:32,080
between

3364
02:21:36,309 --> 02:21:34,319
um i think it's somewhere like malibu

3365
02:21:38,150 --> 02:21:36,319
and santa barbara and

3366
02:21:40,950 --> 02:21:38,160
and one of the islands and i can't

3367
02:21:44,710 --> 02:21:40,960
remember which island it is do you know

3368
02:21:47,190 --> 02:21:44,720
it's catalina newport beach and uh

3369
02:21:49,270 --> 02:21:47,200
right around huntington beach so that's

3370
02:21:51,670 --> 02:21:49,280
the uh that's the triangle yeah thanks

3371
02:21:53,750 --> 02:21:51,680
thanks i'm glad you knew that um yeah

3372
02:21:55,200 --> 02:21:53,760
she'd be disappointed that i forgot

3373
02:21:58,950 --> 02:21:55,210
exactly what's the spot

3374
02:22:01,110 --> 02:21:58,960
[Laughter]

3375
02:22:03,830 --> 02:22:01,120
uh she'll be on with this wednesday

3376
02:22:06,630 --> 02:22:03,840
fantastic um i watched the film uh a

3377
02:22:09,510 --> 02:22:06,640
couple of times already uh it's very

3378
02:22:11,830 --> 02:22:09,520
interesting yeah yeah and so essentially

3379
02:22:13,510 --> 02:22:11,840
you know in this film um

3380
02:22:15,510 --> 02:22:13,520
for those of us in the public that

3381
02:22:17,750 --> 02:22:15,520
haven't got a chance to see it yet you

3382
02:22:20,950 --> 02:22:17,760
know what she's done is she's

3383
02:22:25,270 --> 02:22:20,960
essentially using this equipment to

3384
02:22:27,429 --> 02:22:25,280
measure uh and actually visibly catch

3385
02:22:30,070 --> 02:22:27,439
essentially what she describes or thinks

3386
02:22:32,389 --> 02:22:30,080
is a wormhole opening and things flying

3387
02:22:33,990 --> 02:22:32,399
out of and into this wormhole in the sky

3388
02:22:38,630 --> 02:22:34,000
a tear in the sky

3389
02:22:41,750 --> 02:22:38,640
and you know so there is pretty clear

3390
02:22:43,510 --> 02:22:41,760
evidence in that and also in all of the

3391
02:22:46,469 --> 02:22:43,520
different kinds of ufo sightings that

3392
02:22:47,910 --> 02:22:46,479
have happened um and uaps whatever the

3393
02:22:50,150 --> 02:22:47,920
heck you want to call them you know

3394
02:22:52,870 --> 02:22:50,160
extraterrestrial spacecraft essentially

3395
02:22:56,070 --> 02:22:52,880
as off-world vehicles as the pentagon

3396
02:22:58,070 --> 02:22:56,080
has grudgingly admitted a few times um

3397
02:23:01,030 --> 02:22:58,080
and that these

3398
02:23:03,750 --> 02:23:01,040
these craft have this capacity to warp

3399
02:23:06,070 --> 02:23:03,760
space time around them to essentially

3400
02:23:08,710 --> 02:23:06,080
have this gravitational bubble that lets

3401
02:23:11,910 --> 02:23:08,720
them jump in and out of positions that

3402
02:23:15,190 --> 02:23:11,920
lets them move without g-force

3403
02:23:17,349 --> 02:23:15,200
90-degree angles high-speed turns flying

3404
02:23:19,670 --> 02:23:17,359
into matter or what seems like solid

3405
02:23:22,070 --> 02:23:19,680
matter flying into the sun

3406
02:23:26,230 --> 02:23:22,080
things like that and all of that just

3407
02:23:27,990 --> 02:23:26,240
reinforces the the immensely powerful

3408
02:23:29,590 --> 02:23:28,000
level of technology that we're talking

3409
02:23:31,750 --> 02:23:29,600
about as soon as you learn how to

3410
02:23:32,790 --> 02:23:31,760
actually control the structure of space

3411
02:23:35,750 --> 02:23:32,800
time

3412
02:23:38,389 --> 02:23:35,760
one of the things that i really enjoy

3413
02:23:40,150 --> 02:23:38,399
about caroline and

3414
02:23:41,190 --> 02:23:40,160
i've said this to her so many times over

3415
02:23:44,630 --> 02:23:41,200
the years i'm gonna say it again

3416
02:23:47,270 --> 02:23:44,640
wednesday night is that her approach

3417
02:23:51,429 --> 02:23:47,280
because she has an open mind but she has

3418
02:23:53,510 --> 02:23:51,439
a very scientific mind too as well it's

3419
02:23:56,550 --> 02:23:53,520
one thing to have an open mind

3420
02:24:00,230 --> 02:23:56,560
it and you know i i get that

3421
02:24:03,110 --> 02:24:00,240
but trying to pull in science to the

3422
02:24:04,790 --> 02:24:03,120
phenomenon not only with uaps but with

3423
02:24:07,990 --> 02:24:04,800
consciousness

3424
02:24:10,309 --> 02:24:08,000
and other aspects uh to our lives that

3425
02:24:11,830 --> 02:24:10,319
has always been caroline's approach but

3426
02:24:13,510 --> 02:24:11,840
here's the deal

3427
02:24:15,190 --> 02:24:13,520
you've been doing this now seam has been

3428
02:24:16,550 --> 02:24:15,200
doing this

3429
02:24:20,550 --> 02:24:16,560
we need

3430
02:24:23,110 --> 02:24:20,560
uh more open-minded science scientists

3431
02:24:25,910 --> 02:24:23,120
to come into this community to take a

3432
02:24:28,230 --> 02:24:25,920
look at what is going on i think that

3433
02:24:30,710 --> 02:24:28,240
avi loeb is now doing this i think he

3434
02:24:33,990 --> 02:24:30,720
has an open mind but it is something

3435
02:24:36,309 --> 02:24:34,000
that our government has been avoiding uh

3436
02:24:37,190 --> 02:24:36,319
at least in a public sense right

3437
02:24:40,389 --> 02:24:37,200
yeah

3438
02:24:41,750 --> 02:24:40,399
it it's it's more than just avoidance

3439
02:24:47,910 --> 02:24:41,760
like

3440
02:24:49,190 --> 02:24:47,920
and i we have a lot of freedom because

3441
02:24:54,070 --> 02:24:49,200
we didn't

3442
02:24:56,469 --> 02:24:54,080
academia establishment so deep

3443
02:24:59,349 --> 02:24:56,479
right we're stuck in there right if i

3444
02:25:01,750 --> 02:24:59,359
was if i had finished the track of going

3445
02:25:03,830 --> 02:25:01,760
through to get my doctorate in physics

3446
02:25:05,990 --> 02:25:03,840
and became a physics professor

3447
02:25:07,990 --> 02:25:06,000
my hands would be so much more tied

3448
02:25:08,870 --> 02:25:08,000
around talking around these topics

3449
02:25:11,270 --> 02:25:08,880
because

3450
02:25:13,590 --> 02:25:11,280
my tenure would be at stake

3451
02:25:16,550 --> 02:25:13,600
any time i speak publicly or do

3452
02:25:19,590 --> 02:25:16,560
something publicly like my position in

3453
02:25:21,830 --> 02:25:19,600
the university would be at stake if the

3454
02:25:24,469 --> 02:25:21,840
university deans if you know the

3455
02:25:26,389 --> 02:25:24,479
education board determined

3456
02:25:29,110 --> 02:25:26,399
that what i was saying or what i was

3457
02:25:32,469 --> 02:25:29,120
theorizing doesn't fit within their

3458
02:25:34,870 --> 02:25:32,479
guidelines and so it's really easy

3459
02:25:37,190 --> 02:25:34,880
for the scientific world and a lot of

3460
02:25:40,150 --> 02:25:37,200
the academic world to essentially just

3461
02:25:42,309 --> 02:25:40,160
say if it's not in our textbooks it's

3462
02:25:44,790 --> 02:25:42,319
not what we already understand it's

3463
02:25:47,750 --> 02:25:44,800
probably pseudoscience

3464
02:25:50,710 --> 02:25:47,760
but this is a huge problem jimmy because

3465
02:25:53,110 --> 02:25:50,720
that's essentially just like saying oh

3466
02:25:56,870 --> 02:25:53,120
so you believe the planets travel around

3467
02:25:58,790 --> 02:25:56,880
the sun instead of right the earth right

3468
02:26:00,630 --> 02:25:58,800
year of heretic

3469
02:26:03,830 --> 02:26:00,640
right burn them at the stake you know

3470
02:26:05,590 --> 02:26:03,840
like this guy is crazy like this is a

3471
02:26:07,429 --> 02:26:05,600
pseudo scientist

3472
02:26:08,389 --> 02:26:07,439
that's exactly what we're dealing with

3473
02:26:11,030 --> 02:26:08,399
because

3474
02:26:13,670 --> 02:26:11,040
it's the momentum of the belief and the

3475
02:26:16,870 --> 02:26:13,680
understanding within the academic world

3476
02:26:21,110 --> 02:26:16,880
that creates the context for what's okay

3477
02:26:22,790 --> 02:26:21,120
to be shared as factual or true now

3478
02:26:25,830 --> 02:26:22,800
before uh

3479
02:26:27,670 --> 02:26:25,840
adam uh you don't have a choice yeah

3480
02:26:29,429 --> 02:26:27,680
you're gonna stay for overtime we're

3481
02:26:31,990 --> 02:26:29,439
gonna keep this conversation going so

3482
02:26:34,150 --> 02:26:32,000
don't say jimmy i'm tired i don't have

3483
02:26:35,270 --> 02:26:34,160
coffee we're going to keep this going

3484
02:26:36,389 --> 02:26:35,280
but but

3485
02:26:38,950 --> 02:26:36,399
is it

3486
02:26:41,510 --> 02:26:38,960
the is this another prong

3487
02:26:43,429 --> 02:26:41,520
of the approach that we have to take we

3488
02:26:46,790 --> 02:26:43,439
do need the military we do need the

3489
02:26:50,389 --> 02:26:46,800
department of defense we do need a seti

3490
02:26:52,630 --> 02:26:50,399
we do need civilians uh to come out and

3491
02:26:54,790 --> 02:26:52,640
speak about their issues but and and we

3492
02:26:57,670 --> 02:26:54,800
you know what we need hollywood we need

3493
02:27:00,230 --> 02:26:57,680
hollywood here too as well but we need

3494
02:27:03,429 --> 02:27:00,240
the scientific community like avilobe

3495
02:27:06,070 --> 02:27:03,439
yourself and seen to absolutely

3496
02:27:08,710 --> 02:27:06,080
spearhead this because it is just

3497
02:27:11,270 --> 02:27:08,720
another it's another cog in the machine

3498
02:27:13,830 --> 02:27:11,280
isn't it we need to keep the pressure on

3499
02:27:16,630 --> 02:27:13,840
yep that's right and you know my angle

3500
02:27:18,630 --> 02:27:16,640
is not to do that directly through the

3501
02:27:20,870 --> 02:27:18,640
scientific you know academic

3502
02:27:23,030 --> 02:27:20,880
establishment my route is to do that

3503
02:27:25,190 --> 02:27:23,040
through tech by building new kinds of

3504
02:27:27,190 --> 02:27:25,200
systems that prove certain theoretical

3505
02:27:29,830 --> 02:27:27,200
models that open up new doors for

3506
02:27:31,750 --> 02:27:29,840
communication that help people to build

3507
02:27:34,790 --> 02:27:31,760
trust graphs and validate in a

3508
02:27:37,510 --> 02:27:34,800
decentralized way and all of that work

3509
02:27:40,150 --> 02:27:37,520
you know essentially is about building

3510
02:27:41,990 --> 02:27:40,160
capacity building capacity for humanity

3511
02:27:44,550 --> 02:27:42,000
to take the leaps that it needs to take

3512
02:27:46,630 --> 02:27:44,560
forward and for me to give my work in

3513
02:27:48,150 --> 02:27:46,640
service because it's it's it's not

3514
02:27:49,750 --> 02:27:48,160
enough just to talk about these things

3515
02:27:51,349 --> 02:27:49,760
we have to put our get our hands dirty

3516
02:27:54,150 --> 02:27:51,359
we have to get to work we have to create

3517
02:27:56,389 --> 02:27:54,160
things we have to actually build things

3518
02:27:57,990 --> 02:27:56,399
that make a difference in this world and

3519
02:28:00,389 --> 02:27:58,000
you know jimmy when you talk about like

3520
02:28:02,950 --> 02:28:00,399
the military groups and a lot of the

3521
02:28:05,349 --> 02:28:02,960
military establishments i've known a lot

3522
02:28:07,270 --> 02:28:05,359
of people within those spaces and a lot

3523
02:28:09,830 --> 02:28:07,280
of the people that i've interacted with

3524
02:28:11,110 --> 02:28:09,840
or engaged in within those spaces

3525
02:28:14,309 --> 02:28:11,120
essentially

3526
02:28:15,990 --> 02:28:14,319
have you know in many cases

3527
02:28:17,270 --> 02:28:16,000
information that the rest of the physics

3528
02:28:18,870 --> 02:28:17,280
world doesn't have

3529
02:28:21,110 --> 02:28:18,880
and and they know it they've already

3530
02:28:23,190 --> 02:28:21,120
proved and done the experiments and they

3531
02:28:25,590 --> 02:28:23,200
know something else works but they're

3532
02:28:27,510 --> 02:28:25,600
keeping it under wraps so i see we got

3533
02:28:29,190 --> 02:28:27,520
caroline cory

3534
02:28:31,670 --> 02:28:29,200
did she come to say hi

3535
02:28:32,550 --> 02:28:31,680
that just popped up and i just wanted to

3536
02:28:36,870 --> 02:28:32,560
uh

3537
02:28:38,230 --> 02:28:36,880
who's listening to the show and

3538
02:28:40,950 --> 02:28:38,240
uh

3539
02:28:43,030 --> 02:28:40,960
i didn't know yeah

3540
02:28:44,950 --> 02:28:43,040
so i only knew because she texted me

3541
02:28:47,110 --> 02:28:44,960
after i gave her a plug on the show and

3542
02:28:48,309 --> 02:28:47,120
she sent me some love and i'm like ah

3543
02:28:50,150 --> 02:28:48,319
thank you

3544
02:28:52,150 --> 02:28:50,160
i'm really excited to see your film and

3545
02:28:54,150 --> 02:28:52,160
all right let's

3546
02:28:56,630 --> 02:28:54,160
everybody just wait and that'll be on

3547
02:28:58,309 --> 02:28:56,640
may 3rd let's take our break here our

3548
02:29:00,070 --> 02:28:58,319
guest tonight the one and only adam

3549
02:29:02,870 --> 02:29:00,080
apollo we're talking about physics

3550
02:29:06,469 --> 02:29:02,880
science and what an extraterrestrial

3551
02:29:08,630 --> 02:29:06,479
civilization would do to get here uh

3552
02:29:11,910 --> 02:29:08,640
when i come back i'm going to bring up

3553
02:29:14,630 --> 02:29:11,920
omumua with adam and uh we'll see what

3554
02:29:16,389 --> 02:29:14,640
his uh take is on that and of course avi

3555
02:29:18,630 --> 02:29:16,399
loeb this is fade to black i'm yours

3556
02:29:21,700 --> 02:29:18,640
jimmy church more with adam after this

3557
02:29:31,830 --> 02:29:21,710
short break stay with us

3558
02:29:33,140 --> 02:29:31,840
[Music]

3559
02:29:41,110 --> 02:29:33,150
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3560
02:29:44,790 --> 02:29:43,270
you're listening to jimmy church and

3561
02:29:48,830 --> 02:29:44,800
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3562
02:29:54,950 --> 02:29:52,070
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3563
02:29:56,320 --> 02:29:54,960
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3564
02:29:59,270 --> 02:29:56,330
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3565
02:30:01,830 --> 02:29:59,280
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3566
02:30:08,360 --> 02:30:01,840
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3567
02:30:11,910 --> 02:30:09,750
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3568
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it's not a lifestyle we chose we were

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02:34:22,950 --> 02:34:20,960
welcome back fade to black

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02:34:25,670 --> 02:34:22,960
i'm your host jimmy church tonight adam

3654
02:34:27,990 --> 02:34:25,680
apollo is with us i got to watch adam

3655
02:34:30,150 --> 02:34:28,000
dance uh during the break and uh that

3656
02:34:32,309 --> 02:34:30,160
was pretty cool a lot of people as we

3657
02:34:34,070 --> 02:34:32,319
head into overtime um

3658
02:34:35,110 --> 02:34:34,080
adam you're a dj

3659
02:34:39,110 --> 02:34:35,120
i am

3660
02:34:41,750 --> 02:34:39,120
yeah you're a dj yep since 1999

3661
02:34:43,429 --> 02:34:41,760
and uh one of these days we'll have a

3662
02:34:45,910 --> 02:34:43,439
little get together at my house i'll get

3663
02:34:48,710 --> 02:34:45,920
the setup outside and uh

3664
02:34:50,550 --> 02:34:48,720
and we can throw down um

3665
02:34:52,710 --> 02:34:50,560
this this conversation has been an

3666
02:34:56,389 --> 02:34:52,720
interesting one and

3667
02:34:58,950 --> 02:34:56,399
um i think i i do want to talk about avi

3668
02:35:02,230 --> 02:34:58,960
loeb and omua for just a bit because i

3669
02:35:05,590 --> 02:35:02,240
think he lays out an excellent case in

3670
02:35:06,389 --> 02:35:05,600
his book extraterrestrial

3671
02:35:09,590 --> 02:35:06,399
that

3672
02:35:10,950 --> 02:35:09,600
omua was not a natural object and it

3673
02:35:13,349 --> 02:35:10,960
defied

3674
02:35:16,309 --> 02:35:13,359
everything that we understand about

3675
02:35:19,030 --> 02:35:16,319
asteroids and things that travel through

3676
02:35:21,510 --> 02:35:19,040
um our star system every day we

3677
02:35:23,590 --> 02:35:21,520
photograph we measure we know the speeds

3678
02:35:25,750 --> 02:35:23,600
we know where they come from and that

3679
02:35:27,270 --> 02:35:25,760
includes well we're understanding more

3680
02:35:31,429 --> 02:35:27,280
about comets

3681
02:35:33,990 --> 02:35:31,439
but everything that omoumou showed us

3682
02:35:35,750 --> 02:35:34,000
was that it it just wasn't a natural

3683
02:35:38,710 --> 02:35:35,760
object now

3684
02:35:40,790 --> 02:35:38,720
um what's your take do you think that

3685
02:35:43,270 --> 02:35:40,800
omomua was

3686
02:35:45,190 --> 02:35:43,280
extraterrestrial it wasn't natural and

3687
02:35:46,550 --> 02:35:45,200
it was a visitor from another star

3688
02:35:49,510 --> 02:35:46,560
system

3689
02:35:51,750 --> 02:35:49,520
you know jimmy honestly i i don't really

3690
02:35:54,389 --> 02:35:51,760
care to try to postulate you know

3691
02:35:57,110 --> 02:35:54,399
exactly what omo mo was

3692
02:35:59,750 --> 02:35:57,120
and don't claim to know because i didn't

3693
02:36:02,550 --> 02:35:59,760
make contact with pilots on a ship on

3694
02:36:04,790 --> 02:36:02,560
omomua you know or like have a direct

3695
02:36:07,670 --> 02:36:04,800
experience there and so it's tough for

3696
02:36:10,150 --> 02:36:07,680
me to say definitively but i will say

3697
02:36:11,190 --> 02:36:10,160
that you know the the biggest notable

3698
02:36:12,710 --> 02:36:11,200
factor

3699
02:36:16,389 --> 02:36:12,720
of this study

3700
02:36:19,910 --> 02:36:16,399
was essentially that the object was

3701
02:36:21,510 --> 02:36:19,920
accelerating it traveled around the sun

3702
02:36:23,830 --> 02:36:21,520
and it didn't just

3703
02:36:26,230 --> 02:36:23,840
it didn't just move in a pattern that

3704
02:36:27,750 --> 02:36:26,240
suggests angular momentum and the sort

3705
02:36:31,349 --> 02:36:27,760
of acceleration that happens by

3706
02:36:34,150 --> 02:36:31,359
slingshotting right it accelerated

3707
02:36:36,309 --> 02:36:34,160
outside of that boundary of what it

3708
02:36:38,230 --> 02:36:36,319
should have essentially within that

3709
02:36:40,469 --> 02:36:38,240
slingshot and

3710
02:36:43,110 --> 02:36:40,479
that suggests something very different

3711
02:36:45,830 --> 02:36:43,120
either the object is losing a bunch of

3712
02:36:48,070 --> 02:36:45,840
mass like a comet you know and somehow

3713
02:36:50,389 --> 02:36:48,080
it's it's actually accelerating because

3714
02:36:51,190 --> 02:36:50,399
of the mass it's losing or burning off

3715
02:36:53,429 --> 02:36:51,200
or

3716
02:36:55,750 --> 02:36:53,439
this is not a natural object and that

3717
02:36:58,469 --> 02:36:55,760
this was a ship and it kind of came in

3718
02:37:00,630 --> 02:36:58,479
did a flyby you know flew around the sun

3719
02:37:02,469 --> 02:37:00,640
and took off you know riding the sun's

3720
02:37:04,870 --> 02:37:02,479
light cruising around so you know

3721
02:37:07,190 --> 02:37:04,880
somebody's riding riding around at super

3722
02:37:10,469 --> 02:37:07,200
high speed on this thing for sure

3723
02:37:11,590 --> 02:37:10,479
um but i will say jimmy also that

3724
02:37:14,870 --> 02:37:11,600
um

3725
02:37:16,870 --> 02:37:14,880
if if it was a starship from another

3726
02:37:19,270 --> 02:37:16,880
civilization kind of swinging through

3727
02:37:22,150 --> 02:37:19,280
and visiting it's a very different

3728
02:37:24,630 --> 02:37:22,160
behavior than we see from a lot of other

3729
02:37:27,910 --> 02:37:24,640
starships that come and visit our planet

3730
02:37:30,870 --> 02:37:27,920
and that is that you know it came in at

3731
02:37:33,429 --> 02:37:30,880
a vector you know using momentum

3732
02:37:36,230 --> 02:37:33,439
traveled followed a pattern of angular

3733
02:37:39,110 --> 02:37:36,240
momentum slingshotted around the star

3734
02:37:41,190 --> 02:37:39,120
continued off in its vector and

3735
02:37:43,270 --> 02:37:41,200
you know we just don't really see ships

3736
02:37:45,510 --> 02:37:43,280
hurtling around the solar system or

3737
02:37:46,630 --> 02:37:45,520
around the earth that often that just

3738
02:37:49,190 --> 02:37:46,640
ride

3739
02:37:52,950 --> 02:37:49,200
the galactic you know gravity well so to

3740
02:37:55,990 --> 02:37:52,960
speak um instead we see ships that stop

3741
02:37:59,429 --> 02:37:56,000
pause move blink do a thing jing you

3742
02:38:02,950 --> 02:37:59,439
know jump and and it seems

3743
02:38:05,190 --> 02:38:02,960
in in some sense more likely to me

3744
02:38:07,349 --> 02:38:05,200
that um that there's something else

3745
02:38:09,429 --> 02:38:07,359
going on here or it was some kind of

3746
02:38:11,750 --> 02:38:09,439
experiment or probe or something like

3747
02:38:13,429 --> 02:38:11,760
that sent to see how it would operate

3748
02:38:14,790 --> 02:38:13,439
and how we would treat it

3749
02:38:17,030 --> 02:38:14,800
um

3750
02:38:19,429 --> 02:38:17,040
rather than like necessarily like a

3751
02:38:21,429 --> 02:38:19,439
manned ship with a crew that's like that

3752
02:38:23,990 --> 02:38:21,439
could just as easily just jump to being

3753
02:38:26,150 --> 02:38:24,000
around the earth or jump over by the sun

3754
02:38:28,230 --> 02:38:26,160
or you know if they can do these things

3755
02:38:30,790 --> 02:38:28,240
like that why would you want to go on

3756
02:38:33,190 --> 02:38:30,800
that long you know ride and trajectory

3757
02:38:34,550 --> 02:38:33,200
and do one little thing to kind of

3758
02:38:37,030 --> 02:38:34,560
suggest that

3759
02:38:38,150 --> 02:38:37,040
you're not like a normal comet or an

3760
02:38:40,389 --> 02:38:38,160
asteroid

3761
02:38:43,590 --> 02:38:40,399
well don't we do

3762
02:38:46,150 --> 02:38:43,600
or attempt to do uh the same things with

3763
02:38:47,670 --> 02:38:46,160
our probes as we send them out through

3764
02:38:49,750 --> 02:38:47,680
the solar system

3765
02:38:52,309 --> 02:38:49,760
uh they're doing drive bys of planets

3766
02:38:55,190 --> 02:38:52,319
they're not necessarily stopping by

3767
02:38:58,550 --> 02:38:55,200
and they they continue on voyager 1 and

3768
02:39:00,070 --> 02:38:58,560
voyager 2 are examples of that

3769
02:39:01,910 --> 02:39:00,080
so

3770
02:39:03,349 --> 02:39:01,920
why think that

3771
02:39:06,070 --> 02:39:03,359
uh that

3772
02:39:08,150 --> 02:39:06,080
omomu would be any different and another

3773
02:39:10,550 --> 02:39:08,160
way to look at omomoa

3774
02:39:14,230 --> 02:39:10,560
maybe it's a piece of a ship

3775
02:39:16,630 --> 02:39:14,240
right that it's a part of a ship uh that

3776
02:39:18,870 --> 02:39:16,640
that came through now the other question

3777
02:39:20,950 --> 02:39:18,880
is why haven't we seen a second one or

3778
02:39:24,230 --> 02:39:20,960
third one you know a

3779
02:39:27,030 --> 02:39:24,240
debris trail if you if you will but it

3780
02:39:29,510 --> 02:39:27,040
did turn on its own it didn't accelerate

3781
02:39:31,990 --> 02:39:29,520
without gravity there wasn't any gas

3782
02:39:34,389 --> 02:39:32,000
emitted from the back there wasn't any

3783
02:39:36,550 --> 02:39:34,399
type of uh gas trail something that was

3784
02:39:39,590 --> 02:39:36,560
heated by the sun and you know like it

3785
02:39:41,030 --> 02:39:39,600
like a comet as you described and also

3786
02:39:43,110 --> 02:39:41,040
its shape

3787
02:39:45,349 --> 02:39:43,120
isn't of any

3788
02:39:47,349 --> 02:39:45,359
you know now could it be

3789
02:39:49,910 --> 02:39:47,359
that it was just anomalous that the

3790
02:39:51,429 --> 02:39:49,920
shape was natural it just happened that

3791
02:39:55,270 --> 02:39:51,439
way okay

3792
02:39:57,190 --> 02:39:55,280
yeah um in avi's book he points out two

3793
02:40:00,469 --> 02:39:57,200
things and i brought this up with isaac

3794
02:40:02,710 --> 02:40:00,479
arthur you know the physicist last week

3795
02:40:04,150 --> 02:40:02,720
avi said two things that stopped me in

3796
02:40:07,830 --> 02:40:04,160
my tracks one

3797
02:40:09,910 --> 02:40:07,840
it was flat and shaped like a pancake

3798
02:40:10,710 --> 02:40:09,920
that's crazy town number one and number

3799
02:40:13,110 --> 02:40:10,720
two

3800
02:40:15,590 --> 02:40:13,120
it exhibited a metallic surface a

3801
02:40:17,030 --> 02:40:15,600
reflective metallic surface

3802
02:40:18,389 --> 02:40:17,040
now

3803
02:40:22,309 --> 02:40:18,399
could that be

3804
02:40:23,349 --> 02:40:22,319
natural yes it could be anything is

3805
02:40:25,750 --> 02:40:23,359
possible

3806
02:40:28,550 --> 02:40:25,760
but it's just like every point that we

3807
02:40:32,870 --> 02:40:28,560
would need to show that it was natural

3808
02:40:35,990 --> 02:40:32,880
it it exhibited the opposite of that

3809
02:40:37,910 --> 02:40:36,000
yeah i mean you know i think

3810
02:40:39,750 --> 02:40:37,920
from the little i know of avi's work i

3811
02:40:42,550 --> 02:40:39,760
think one of the things that he

3812
02:40:44,870 --> 02:40:42,560
suggested was something like it because

3813
02:40:46,950 --> 02:40:44,880
of its surface

3814
02:40:48,950 --> 02:40:46,960
being metallic-like

3815
02:40:50,469 --> 02:40:48,960
that it could create a reflective

3816
02:40:52,550 --> 02:40:50,479
pressure in some way with solar

3817
02:40:55,030 --> 02:40:52,560
radiation that could explain its

3818
02:40:57,830 --> 02:40:55,040
acceleration as just one

3819
02:41:01,429 --> 02:40:57,840
possible theory um i know that in the

3820
02:41:03,429 --> 02:41:01,439
nasa photos that i saw prior on it they

3821
02:41:06,630 --> 02:41:03,439
were they were describing it a lot more

3822
02:41:08,389 --> 02:41:06,640
like a long cigar shaped object

3823
02:41:09,429 --> 02:41:08,399
so i'm not sure

3824
02:41:11,590 --> 02:41:09,439
whose

3825
02:41:13,190 --> 02:41:11,600
you know shape assessments are correct

3826
02:41:14,870 --> 02:41:13,200
here or whatever i'm just going off of a

3827
02:41:17,910 --> 02:41:14,880
few different things i've seen

3828
02:41:19,910 --> 02:41:17,920
um on the object but i guess my main

3829
02:41:22,950 --> 02:41:19,920
point is jimmy like yeah sure we we do

3830
02:41:23,830 --> 02:41:22,960
that and we send probes and maybe you

3831
02:41:26,790 --> 02:41:23,840
know

3832
02:41:28,550 --> 02:41:26,800
uh maybe there's a galactic civilization

3833
02:41:30,469 --> 02:41:28,560
that just decided to like launch

3834
02:41:32,150 --> 02:41:30,479
something towards our sun so that we

3835
02:41:33,670 --> 02:41:32,160
would see it you know and it would fly

3836
02:41:36,150 --> 02:41:33,680
by us

3837
02:41:38,550 --> 02:41:36,160
but my main point is just that

3838
02:41:40,790 --> 02:41:38,560
the level of technological advancement

3839
02:41:44,389 --> 02:41:40,800
of a lot of the species that clearly

3840
02:41:47,349 --> 02:41:44,399
visit earth a lot based on the countless

3841
02:41:50,510 --> 02:41:47,359
contact experiences ce5s witness

3842
02:41:52,230 --> 02:41:50,520
accounts ufo sightings you know

3843
02:41:54,710 --> 02:41:52,240
cinematography

3844
02:41:56,550 --> 02:41:54,720
of of people like you know james

3845
02:41:58,230 --> 02:41:56,560
gilliland at east eddy ranch and i've

3846
02:41:59,590 --> 02:41:58,240
been up there and seen tons of ships on

3847
02:42:01,910 --> 02:41:59,600
his property and i've seen them all over

3848
02:42:04,070 --> 02:42:01,920
the place and it's like

3849
02:42:05,510 --> 02:42:04,080
why would they even need to do that i

3850
02:42:07,830 --> 02:42:05,520
mean like

3851
02:42:08,630 --> 02:42:07,840
unless this civilization was just having

3852
02:42:10,550 --> 02:42:08,640
fun

3853
02:42:12,950 --> 02:42:10,560
and throwing a probe by us and maybe

3854
02:42:14,870 --> 02:42:12,960
that's the case and to the mainstream

3855
02:42:17,510 --> 02:42:14,880
science world it's big it's like oh my

3856
02:42:18,790 --> 02:42:17,520
god a probe from an alien civilization

3857
02:42:20,790 --> 02:42:18,800
my god

3858
02:42:22,870 --> 02:42:20,800
jim that could be huge you know this

3859
02:42:24,950 --> 02:42:22,880
could be an object if we could have only

3860
02:42:26,950 --> 02:42:24,960
caught it and studied it you know we

3861
02:42:29,830 --> 02:42:26,960
would know something mole but they're

3862
02:42:31,030 --> 02:42:29,840
just not paying attention and completely

3863
02:42:34,469 --> 02:42:31,040
ignoring

3864
02:42:36,389 --> 02:42:34,479
the literally like millions of sightings

3865
02:42:38,950 --> 02:42:36,399
happening all the time around this

3866
02:42:41,349 --> 02:42:38,960
planet of highly advanced spacecraft

3867
02:42:43,349 --> 02:42:41,359
coming in shooting 90 degrees turning

3868
02:42:46,550 --> 02:42:43,359
blipping shooting through tears in the

3869
02:42:48,710 --> 02:42:46,560
sky i mean you name it so anyway that's

3870
02:42:50,870 --> 02:42:48,720
what i'm saying is is like it doesn't

3871
02:42:54,070 --> 02:42:50,880
mean that much to me to be honest

3872
02:42:56,710 --> 02:42:54,080
now the the next the last thing that i

3873
02:43:00,309 --> 02:42:56,720
want to discuss with you is

3874
02:43:03,750 --> 02:43:00,319
consciousness and and and what it is

3875
02:43:07,590 --> 02:43:03,760
and i feel that

3876
02:43:09,590 --> 02:43:07,600
there is a shift in science

3877
02:43:11,830 --> 02:43:09,600
and certainly in physics

3878
02:43:14,150 --> 02:43:11,840
uh to having a conversation about

3879
02:43:16,230 --> 02:43:14,160
consciousness today where that wasn't

3880
02:43:18,230 --> 02:43:16,240
the case in the past you had philosophy

3881
02:43:21,190 --> 02:43:18,240
on one side he had science on the other

3882
02:43:22,550 --> 02:43:21,200
before that philosophy was science right

3883
02:43:25,510 --> 02:43:22,560
and we've had these

3884
02:43:27,670 --> 02:43:25,520
we've had these changes but uh

3885
02:43:29,750 --> 02:43:27,680
scientists in physics

3886
02:43:31,190 --> 02:43:29,760
really did not want to go into the realm

3887
02:43:32,309 --> 02:43:31,200
of something that they couldn't measure

3888
02:43:34,070 --> 02:43:32,319
or prove

3889
02:43:37,269 --> 02:43:34,080
and they never wanted to put

3890
02:43:39,510 --> 02:43:37,279
consciousness or what what that could be

3891
02:43:40,790 --> 02:43:39,520
on the table i think it's starting to

3892
02:43:42,630 --> 02:43:40,800
shift

3893
02:43:44,469 --> 02:43:42,640
do you think that this is now a

3894
02:43:46,630 --> 02:43:44,479
conversation that physicists are ready

3895
02:43:49,429 --> 02:43:46,640
to start having

3896
02:43:50,550 --> 02:43:49,439
i think that it's a conversation we have

3897
02:43:53,670 --> 02:43:50,560
to have

3898
02:43:55,269 --> 02:43:53,680
it's required we're at the point where

3899
02:43:58,710 --> 02:43:55,279
we understand

3900
02:44:00,950 --> 02:43:58,720
that observational analysis

3901
02:44:02,469 --> 02:44:00,960
requires understanding the nature of

3902
02:44:05,429 --> 02:44:02,479
observation

3903
02:44:07,590 --> 02:44:05,439
as much as it does analysis

3904
02:44:09,670 --> 02:44:07,600
you can't observe without studying the

3905
02:44:10,790 --> 02:44:09,680
observer and the nature of that which is

3906
02:44:13,349 --> 02:44:10,800
perceiving

3907
02:44:14,950 --> 02:44:13,359
and you can't measure without observing

3908
02:44:17,830 --> 02:44:14,960
so

3909
02:44:19,420 --> 02:44:17,840
are we are we in a paradox is this a is

3910
02:44:23,110 --> 02:44:19,430
this a bonafide conundrum

3911
02:44:27,910 --> 02:44:24,230
or

3912
02:44:31,510 --> 02:44:27,920
is is are we at a point now where

3913
02:44:33,670 --> 02:44:31,520
physicists may be up to the challenge of

3914
02:44:36,230 --> 02:44:33,680
trying to measure and and trying to

3915
02:44:37,190 --> 02:44:36,240
observe what consciousness may be

3916
02:44:41,830 --> 02:44:37,200
yeah

3917
02:44:44,550 --> 02:44:41,840
it's as i said it's required we have to

3918
02:44:46,950 --> 02:44:44,560
do it we have to understand it but you

3919
02:44:48,630 --> 02:44:46,960
know we've we've built so many

3920
02:44:51,830 --> 02:44:48,640
specialization

3921
02:44:54,389 --> 02:44:51,840
containers to our studies in science

3922
02:44:56,630 --> 02:44:54,399
that i find it extraordinary fascinating

3923
02:44:59,349 --> 02:44:56,640
when i see these breakthroughs in

3924
02:45:01,510 --> 02:44:59,359
neuroscience and neurobiology and that

3925
02:45:04,150 --> 02:45:01,520
hasn't propagated over to the physicists

3926
02:45:06,070 --> 02:45:04,160
yet right and it takes bridges you know

3927
02:45:07,590 --> 02:45:06,080
like my good friend william brown and i

3928
02:45:10,710 --> 02:45:07,600
talk about this a lot when we do our

3929
02:45:12,469 --> 02:45:10,720
residence academy sessions where we do q

3930
02:45:14,309 --> 02:45:12,479
and a's with the students you know once

3931
02:45:16,309 --> 02:45:14,319
a month every third wednesday if you're

3932
02:45:18,710 --> 02:45:16,319
a residence academy student you get to

3933
02:45:20,389 --> 02:45:18,720
get on live with william and i and jamie

3934
02:45:23,429 --> 02:45:20,399
and marshall efforts who wrote

3935
02:45:25,830 --> 02:45:23,439
cosmometry amazing book um on my shelf

3936
02:45:28,150 --> 02:45:25,840
here behind me and and essentially

3937
02:45:29,110 --> 02:45:28,160
william and i love to get into this

3938
02:45:31,990 --> 02:45:29,120
because

3939
02:45:36,309 --> 02:45:32,000
you know the kinds of incredible things

3940
02:45:38,230 --> 02:45:36,319
that we find and discover in biophysics

3941
02:45:41,110 --> 02:45:38,240
the actual study of what's going on in

3942
02:45:44,230 --> 02:45:41,120
the body and the measurable experimental

3943
02:45:46,630 --> 02:45:44,240
things that prove that the body has

3944
02:45:49,510 --> 02:45:46,640
these incredible capacities and

3945
02:45:52,230 --> 02:45:49,520
especially in relationship to matter

3946
02:45:54,870 --> 02:45:52,240
things like water and electricity and

3947
02:45:58,070 --> 02:45:54,880
the way that we operate is just this

3948
02:46:00,389 --> 02:45:58,080
vast well stream of of beauty and

3949
02:46:03,110 --> 02:46:00,399
knowledge that that literally breaks the

3950
02:46:05,429 --> 02:46:03,120
ground in other fields in areas like

3951
02:46:07,750 --> 02:46:05,439
physics where you just think that things

3952
02:46:09,429 --> 02:46:07,760
are this way and it's got to be this way

3953
02:46:12,150 --> 02:46:09,439
because there's so much momentum in the

3954
02:46:15,030 --> 02:46:12,160
thinking around it but you know it still

3955
02:46:17,110 --> 02:46:15,040
surprises me a lot that when i look out

3956
02:46:19,429 --> 02:46:17,120
into the world and i realize wow

3957
02:46:22,070 --> 02:46:19,439
everybody still thinks quantum mechanics

3958
02:46:24,550 --> 02:46:22,080
is the thing that like it's correct like

3959
02:46:26,790 --> 02:46:24,560
the standard model is correct and it's

3960
02:46:27,670 --> 02:46:26,800
got all the stuff figured out and i'm

3961
02:46:30,710 --> 02:46:27,680
like

3962
02:46:32,950 --> 02:46:30,720
my god you know i 10 years ago or 15

3963
02:46:35,110 --> 02:46:32,960
years ago realized the faults in the

3964
02:46:37,670 --> 02:46:35,120
standard model of physics you know and

3965
02:46:39,830 --> 02:46:37,680
the sim has been you know nailing the

3966
02:46:42,790 --> 02:46:39,840
nails in the coffin of the standard

3967
02:46:45,590 --> 02:46:42,800
model for years and years and years

3968
02:46:47,670 --> 02:46:45,600
and and yet it's still what everybody

3969
02:46:49,269 --> 02:46:47,680
believes is the standard model of

3970
02:46:52,790 --> 02:46:49,279
physics that's a reason why they call it

3971
02:46:54,870 --> 02:46:52,800
the standard model you know and so it's

3972
02:46:55,750 --> 02:46:54,880
it takes a while for these things to

3973
02:46:58,070 --> 02:46:55,760
turn

3974
02:47:00,309 --> 02:46:58,080
and i will say that the greatest

3975
02:47:02,309 --> 02:47:00,319
breakthroughs i see in the fields of

3976
02:47:05,030 --> 02:47:02,319
biophysics and the fields of technology

3977
02:47:08,309 --> 02:47:05,040
in the fields of astrophysics and you

3978
02:47:09,910 --> 02:47:08,319
know you name you name the area you name

3979
02:47:12,469 --> 02:47:09,920
the academic study

3980
02:47:15,110 --> 02:47:12,479
the people who have done the work

3981
02:47:17,269 --> 02:47:15,120
to understand consciousness

3982
02:47:20,870 --> 02:47:17,279
the mechanisms of consciousness the

3983
02:47:23,269 --> 02:47:20,880
metaphysics of consciousness the long

3984
02:47:24,469 --> 02:47:23,279
history of philosophy connected to

3985
02:47:26,630 --> 02:47:24,479
consciousness

3986
02:47:29,349 --> 02:47:26,640
that's where the breakthroughs come from

3987
02:47:31,269 --> 02:47:29,359
because we're not separating the two

3988
02:47:33,990 --> 02:47:31,279
we're understanding that consciousness

3989
02:47:36,790 --> 02:47:34,000
is inherent to the patterns that we

3990
02:47:40,790 --> 02:47:36,800
perceive it's inherent to the nature of

3991
02:47:44,150 --> 02:47:40,800
space and time itself and so physics and

3992
02:47:46,710 --> 02:47:44,160
and psychology and philosophy and

3993
02:47:49,510 --> 02:47:46,720
cultural anthropology and all of these

3994
02:47:52,870 --> 02:47:49,520
fields unite around a single hub and

3995
02:47:55,349 --> 02:47:52,880
that hub is how we perceive that hub is

3996
02:47:57,349 --> 02:47:55,359
consciousness itself and the ways and

3997
02:47:59,510 --> 02:47:57,359
patterns through which consciousness

3998
02:48:02,550 --> 02:47:59,520
evolves

3999
02:48:05,030 --> 02:48:02,560
physicists i i keep saying physicists

4000
02:48:08,630 --> 02:48:05,040
but let's just stay right there sure um

4001
02:48:09,750 --> 02:48:08,640
know that they can speak laugh feel

4002
02:48:11,990 --> 02:48:09,760
taste

4003
02:48:13,910 --> 02:48:12,000
right emotions they know that

4004
02:48:16,710 --> 02:48:13,920
consciousness exists and that they can

4005
02:48:17,910 --> 02:48:16,720
think and postulate about these

4006
02:48:20,710 --> 02:48:17,920
subjects

4007
02:48:23,030 --> 02:48:20,720
because they are sentient and they have

4008
02:48:26,070 --> 02:48:23,040
uh consciousness yes

4009
02:48:28,469 --> 02:48:26,080
but one of the things that

4010
02:48:30,630 --> 02:48:28,479
i think it comes down to chemistry

4011
02:48:33,510 --> 02:48:30,640
and that they feel that there is a

4012
02:48:36,070 --> 02:48:33,520
little piece of consciousness in every

4013
02:48:38,230 --> 02:48:36,080
particle and once you get a mass of

4014
02:48:40,630 --> 02:48:38,240
things together the consciousness builds

4015
02:48:42,710 --> 02:48:40,640
up and creates

4016
02:48:45,349 --> 02:48:42,720
like in our brain right or any other

4017
02:48:47,190 --> 02:48:45,359
sentient being do you follow that path

4018
02:48:49,349 --> 02:48:47,200
do you think that there's a little taste

4019
02:48:51,670 --> 02:48:49,359
of consciousness in every particle and

4020
02:48:54,870 --> 02:48:51,680
if that is the case isn't that primed

4021
02:48:57,510 --> 02:48:54,880
and ready to be measured um

4022
02:49:00,389 --> 02:48:57,520
yeah there's problems with that approach

4023
02:49:02,790 --> 02:49:00,399
and and i'll just point to

4024
02:49:04,790 --> 02:49:02,800
where that approach comes from you you

4025
02:49:06,950 --> 02:49:04,800
want to know the lineage of that idea

4026
02:49:08,469 --> 02:49:06,960
okay talk to me

4027
02:49:09,750 --> 02:49:08,479
go back to

4028
02:49:12,469 --> 02:49:09,760
dickheart

4029
02:49:14,950 --> 02:49:12,479
descartes is the guy because descartes

4030
02:49:17,349 --> 02:49:14,960
you know he's trying to say like

4031
02:49:19,590 --> 02:49:17,359
he he he both provided brilliant

4032
02:49:21,990 --> 02:49:19,600
insights one of his brilliant insights

4033
02:49:24,389 --> 02:49:22,000
was kind of the formative idea of the

4034
02:49:27,030 --> 02:49:24,399
enlightenment and that was essentially i

4035
02:49:29,670 --> 02:49:27,040
think therefore i am and also

4036
02:49:32,469 --> 02:49:29,680
that i have the ability to discover

4037
02:49:34,469 --> 02:49:32,479
truth myself i don't need the church to

4038
02:49:36,230 --> 02:49:34,479
do it i don't need a higher power to do

4039
02:49:39,190 --> 02:49:36,240
it i don't need anybody else to do it i

4040
02:49:41,190 --> 02:49:39,200
can find the truth i am self-empowered

4041
02:49:44,070 --> 02:49:41,200
to do that that was a big thing and a

4042
02:49:46,070 --> 02:49:44,080
big contribution from descartes however

4043
02:49:48,950 --> 02:49:46,080
he also took another road and the other

4044
02:49:51,590 --> 02:49:48,960
road was about trying to understand

4045
02:49:52,790 --> 02:49:51,600
where and how consciousness sits inside

4046
02:49:54,870 --> 02:49:52,800
of bodies

4047
02:49:56,070 --> 02:49:54,880
and he essentially

4048
02:49:58,710 --> 02:49:56,080
looked at

4049
02:50:01,990 --> 02:49:58,720
animals and everything else

4050
02:50:04,710 --> 02:50:02,000
any kind of life as a machine

4051
02:50:06,710 --> 02:50:04,720
and he thought consciousness must be

4052
02:50:09,110 --> 02:50:06,720
separate from the machine

4053
02:50:10,790 --> 02:50:09,120
that means and and and if consciousness

4054
02:50:12,870 --> 02:50:10,800
is separate from the machine then

4055
02:50:15,910 --> 02:50:12,880
probably the only thing that actually

4056
02:50:18,950 --> 02:50:15,920
has consciousness is humans because

4057
02:50:20,950 --> 02:50:18,960
humans have souls right so even though

4058
02:50:23,110 --> 02:50:20,960
he was like kind of escaping out of the

4059
02:50:25,429 --> 02:50:23,120
trajectory of the control of the church

4060
02:50:27,990 --> 02:50:25,439
and all of that he still played right

4061
02:50:29,910 --> 02:50:28,000
along with the church's idea that human

4062
02:50:32,150 --> 02:50:29,920
beings are the only things with souls

4063
02:50:34,389 --> 02:50:32,160
that means animals and all other life

4064
02:50:36,230 --> 02:50:34,399
forms are automatons

4065
02:50:38,469 --> 02:50:36,240
and that if you could just cut them up

4066
02:50:39,830 --> 02:50:38,479
into small enough pieces you would

4067
02:50:42,389 --> 02:50:39,840
understand how everything in the

4068
02:50:46,309 --> 02:50:42,399
universe works it's all a mechanical

4069
02:50:49,030 --> 02:50:46,319
engine right and this idea has continued

4070
02:50:51,510 --> 02:50:49,040
to persist in our studies of physics and

4071
02:50:53,510 --> 02:50:51,520
philosophy since that time and

4072
02:50:55,590 --> 02:50:53,520
particularly in the physics world and

4073
02:50:57,990 --> 02:50:55,600
anything using the scientific method it

4074
02:51:00,550 --> 02:50:58,000
says if i take this object and i break

4075
02:51:02,950 --> 02:51:00,560
it down enough then i can understand all

4076
02:51:04,790 --> 02:51:02,960
the parts inside of it and therefore i

4077
02:51:07,269 --> 02:51:04,800
will fully understand it

4078
02:51:09,349 --> 02:51:07,279
but there's already one area in physics

4079
02:51:10,550 --> 02:51:09,359
where this becomes a huge fallacy and a

4080
02:51:13,750 --> 02:51:10,560
big problem

4081
02:51:16,150 --> 02:51:13,760
because we literally take protons and we

4082
02:51:18,070 --> 02:51:16,160
slam them together at near the speed of

4083
02:51:19,910 --> 02:51:18,080
light and now remember back in the

4084
02:51:22,309 --> 02:51:19,920
beginning of this whole presentation

4085
02:51:25,190 --> 02:51:22,319
jimmy we were talking about protons and

4086
02:51:26,070 --> 02:51:25,200
i said something i said protons never

4087
02:51:28,790 --> 02:51:26,080
die

4088
02:51:30,469 --> 02:51:28,800
protons last for lifetimes of the

4089
02:51:34,710 --> 02:51:30,479
universe they're literally the most

4090
02:51:36,389 --> 02:51:34,720
stable object in the entire universe is

4091
02:51:38,469 --> 02:51:36,399
the proton right

4092
02:51:40,710 --> 02:51:38,479
yeah and and so these things are

4093
02:51:42,550 --> 02:51:40,720
basically perfect if there's anything we

4094
02:51:43,830 --> 02:51:42,560
could say is perfect

4095
02:51:46,950 --> 02:51:43,840
in the universe

4096
02:51:49,990 --> 02:51:46,960
it's the structure of a proton because

4097
02:51:53,510 --> 02:51:50,000
i mean if you if you deem perfection by

4098
02:51:54,389 --> 02:51:53,520
longevity then it definitely is right

4099
02:51:55,110 --> 02:51:54,399
but

4100
02:51:57,590 --> 02:51:55,120
we

4101
02:51:58,550 --> 02:51:57,600
don't to understand the proton what do

4102
02:52:02,550 --> 02:51:58,560
we do

4103
02:52:05,670 --> 02:52:02,560
we slam it into another proton and blast

4104
02:52:08,309 --> 02:52:05,680
that thing apart we literally destroy it

4105
02:52:10,070 --> 02:52:08,319
and we take pictures of the wreckage

4106
02:52:12,150 --> 02:52:10,080
and you know nisim used to say this

4107
02:52:14,950 --> 02:52:12,160
thing that i absolutely loved and he was

4108
02:52:17,910 --> 02:52:14,960
like he was like trying to

4109
02:52:21,349 --> 02:52:17,920
understand the proton

4110
02:52:22,710 --> 02:52:21,359
by slamming the into another proton is

4111
02:52:23,710 --> 02:52:22,720
like taking

4112
02:52:27,349 --> 02:52:23,720
two

4113
02:52:28,389 --> 02:52:27,359
747s and crashing them together in

4114
02:52:31,910 --> 02:52:28,399
midair

4115
02:52:35,269 --> 02:52:31,920
and taking photos of the wreckage

4116
02:52:39,110 --> 02:52:35,279
i love that because he's dead on

4117
02:52:39,120 --> 02:52:44,550
thanks i love nasa

4118
02:52:49,510 --> 02:52:46,550
but yeah he's like it's like crashing

4119
02:52:50,950 --> 02:52:49,520
two 747 jets together and then taking

4120
02:52:53,429 --> 02:52:50,960
pictures of the wreckage to try to

4121
02:52:55,910 --> 02:52:53,439
understand how to build a 747.

4122
02:52:58,309 --> 02:52:55,920
you can't do it that way and this is

4123
02:53:00,469 --> 02:52:58,319
also true of consciousness because the

4124
02:53:02,550 --> 02:53:00,479
more we actually understand the nature

4125
02:53:05,590 --> 02:53:02,560
and functionality of consciousness the

4126
02:53:07,750 --> 02:53:05,600
more we realize it doesn't it's not like

4127
02:53:09,910 --> 02:53:07,760
a bunch of pieces put together that

4128
02:53:11,429 --> 02:53:09,920
build a structure and then you have

4129
02:53:13,110 --> 02:53:11,439
consciousness you know and they're all

4130
02:53:15,429 --> 02:53:13,120
little parts of consciousness that make

4131
02:53:17,590 --> 02:53:15,439
up a bigger thing of consciousness no

4132
02:53:19,510 --> 02:53:17,600
consciousness is holographic

4133
02:53:20,309 --> 02:53:19,520
it operates much more

4134
02:53:23,670 --> 02:53:20,319
like

4135
02:53:26,790 --> 02:53:23,680
the model of the small the proton

4136
02:53:29,190 --> 02:53:26,800
contains inside of it a holographic

4137
02:53:30,870 --> 02:53:29,200
information set that connects to the

4138
02:53:33,830 --> 02:53:30,880
entire universe

4139
02:53:36,630 --> 02:53:33,840
and that consciousness is not isolated

4140
02:53:38,870 --> 02:53:36,640
to a proton or a plonk unit or a

4141
02:53:41,510 --> 02:53:38,880
collection of those that make a brain

4142
02:53:43,830 --> 02:53:41,520
consciousness actually is

4143
02:53:46,790 --> 02:53:43,840
the wormhole information network of

4144
02:53:47,910 --> 02:53:46,800
space-time itself it's literally

4145
02:53:54,710 --> 02:53:47,920
space-time

4146
02:53:56,950 --> 02:53:54,720
as an individualized being or soul or

4147
02:53:59,110 --> 02:53:56,960
whatever you want to call me and by the

4148
02:54:02,070 --> 02:53:59,120
way i think animals and many other forms

4149
02:54:04,550 --> 02:54:02,080
of life we all have our own self-aware

4150
02:54:05,349 --> 02:54:04,560
referenced points of consciousness

4151
02:54:08,070 --> 02:54:05,359
we

4152
02:54:11,510 --> 02:54:08,080
are an actual convergence point of

4153
02:54:14,790 --> 02:54:11,520
consciousness that self-sustains itself

4154
02:54:17,429 --> 02:54:14,800
and exists with the same level of

4155
02:54:19,910 --> 02:54:17,439
self-referencing capacity as a proton

4156
02:54:22,230 --> 02:54:19,920
where we literally carry information

4157
02:54:24,790 --> 02:54:22,240
body after body after body after body

4158
02:54:27,110 --> 02:54:24,800
that we incarnate into we exist with

4159
02:54:29,670 --> 02:54:27,120
awareness even when we're not inside of

4160
02:54:32,070 --> 02:54:29,680
a vehicle like a body and when we're in

4161
02:54:35,590 --> 02:54:32,080
a body our body is actually an

4162
02:54:38,469 --> 02:54:35,600
interactive holographic geodesic mirror

4163
02:54:41,269 --> 02:54:38,479
of our soul nature it's part of who we

4164
02:54:42,870 --> 02:54:41,279
are also and so it when you get into

4165
02:54:45,110 --> 02:54:42,880
this it's like

4166
02:54:46,790 --> 02:54:45,120
ah the idea is so much less about

4167
02:54:48,469 --> 02:54:46,800
putting together the parts to make a

4168
02:54:51,269 --> 02:54:48,479
whole and much more about understanding

4169
02:54:52,070 --> 02:54:51,279
that the hole is in all the parts

4170
02:54:54,790 --> 02:54:52,080
and

4171
02:54:57,590 --> 02:54:54,800
all the holes are sacred

4172
02:55:00,389 --> 02:54:57,600
all the holes are special every every

4173
02:55:03,910 --> 02:55:00,399
piece every aggregation every person

4174
02:55:06,550 --> 02:55:03,920
every individualized essence of being is

4175
02:55:09,030 --> 02:55:06,560
beautiful and perfect and and

4176
02:55:11,269 --> 02:55:09,040
cannot actually even be defined or a

4177
02:55:14,070 --> 02:55:11,279
circle be drawn around it unless you're

4178
02:55:14,830 --> 02:55:14,080
taking into context eternity

4179
02:55:17,990 --> 02:55:14,840
now

4180
02:55:19,750 --> 02:55:18,000
uh has et

4181
02:55:22,710 --> 02:55:19,760
measured this

4182
02:55:24,150 --> 02:55:22,720
has an extraterrestrial civilization

4183
02:55:27,910 --> 02:55:24,160
advanced enough

4184
02:55:29,990 --> 02:55:27,920
to measure this measure what what what

4185
02:55:31,429 --> 02:55:30,000
cannot be measured

4186
02:55:34,150 --> 02:55:31,439
yeah well

4187
02:55:35,910 --> 02:55:34,160
um i don't know if measured

4188
02:55:37,110 --> 02:55:35,920
is the right word

4189
02:55:40,710 --> 02:55:37,120
um

4190
02:55:43,910 --> 02:55:40,720
but to define or to

4191
02:55:46,389 --> 02:55:43,920
understand the holographic geometry

4192
02:55:48,950 --> 02:55:46,399
through which consciousness functions

4193
02:55:51,670 --> 02:55:48,960
i think is doable um

4194
02:55:54,309 --> 02:55:51,680
in fact caroline and i you know hung out

4195
02:55:56,389 --> 02:55:54,319
for a long time going into this going

4196
02:55:58,710 --> 02:55:56,399
into this puzzle of like how do we

4197
02:56:00,469 --> 02:55:58,720
measure consciousness right right how do

4198
02:56:04,150 --> 02:56:00,479
we prove consciousness

4199
02:56:06,309 --> 02:56:04,160
and and to her i also made the point of

4200
02:56:07,990 --> 02:56:06,319
we have been measuring consciousness all

4201
02:56:09,910 --> 02:56:08,000
along like

4202
02:56:11,590 --> 02:56:09,920
princeton engineering anomalies research

4203
02:56:12,790 --> 02:56:11,600
group we're measuring the effect of

4204
02:56:14,469 --> 02:56:12,800
consciousness on random number

4205
02:56:16,309 --> 02:56:14,479
generators you know we measure

4206
02:56:17,910 --> 02:56:16,319
consciousness every time we prove that

4207
02:56:19,910 --> 02:56:17,920
remote viewing works just like in her

4208
02:56:22,070 --> 02:56:19,920
movie superhuman where she essentially

4209
02:56:24,790 --> 02:56:22,080
is like proving that that works you know

4210
02:56:27,349 --> 02:56:24,800
we measure consciousness based on the

4211
02:56:29,429 --> 02:56:27,359
experience of the subtle energetic field

4212
02:56:31,510 --> 02:56:29,439
and understanding that the quantum

4213
02:56:33,429 --> 02:56:31,520
vibrational field around the body

4214
02:56:35,910 --> 02:56:33,439
responds and moves based on

4215
02:56:38,389 --> 02:56:35,920
consciousness so you can bend a spoon

4216
02:56:41,510 --> 02:56:38,399
you can telekinetically move an object

4217
02:56:43,510 --> 02:56:41,520
there are so many things that we already

4218
02:56:45,750 --> 02:56:43,520
are proving in the science of

4219
02:56:48,630 --> 02:56:45,760
understanding how consciousness works

4220
02:56:51,110 --> 02:56:48,640
and interacts with space-time and for me

4221
02:56:53,349 --> 02:56:51,120
if there's any like you know

4222
02:56:55,030 --> 02:56:53,359
if there's a galactic model an

4223
02:56:57,190 --> 02:56:55,040
extraterrestrial model for how

4224
02:56:59,030 --> 02:56:57,200
consciousness works and operates

4225
02:57:01,269 --> 02:56:59,040
it's probably the one that i brought

4226
02:57:03,910 --> 02:57:01,279
through when i was 15 years old and i

4227
02:57:06,070 --> 02:57:03,920
call it the unified harmonic matrix and

4228
02:57:08,950 --> 02:57:06,080
it's essentially a quantum geometric

4229
02:57:11,429 --> 02:57:08,960
model a countable geometric model that

4230
02:57:14,550 --> 02:57:11,439
leverages harmonic geometries to

4231
02:57:16,790 --> 02:57:14,560
understand the fundamental interactive

4232
02:57:19,349 --> 02:57:16,800
relationships of consciousness with each

4233
02:57:23,830 --> 02:57:19,359
layer of space time and each dimension

4234
02:57:25,990 --> 02:57:23,840
of existence right and how how that that

4235
02:57:28,469 --> 02:57:26,000
uh that process

4236
02:57:30,950 --> 02:57:28,479
essentially allows

4237
02:57:33,429 --> 02:57:30,960
the universality of all kind of

4238
02:57:35,990 --> 02:57:33,439
experience to happen while still

4239
02:57:38,550 --> 02:57:36,000
simplifying the way that we actually

4240
02:57:41,110 --> 02:57:38,560
energetically interact with everything

4241
02:57:43,030 --> 02:57:41,120
another great conversation my friend and

4242
02:57:45,190 --> 02:57:43,040
i can't wait we're going to get to hang

4243
02:57:46,630 --> 02:57:45,200
out in a couple of months at just your

4244
02:57:50,230 --> 02:57:46,640
best you're going to be here in

4245
02:57:53,269 --> 02:57:50,240
california down in san diego uh with uh

4246
02:57:54,870 --> 02:57:53,279
liberties and here's the deal um when do

4247
02:57:56,710 --> 02:57:54,880
you arrive

4248
02:57:59,190 --> 02:57:56,720
and will we have time in a couple of

4249
02:58:00,630 --> 02:57:59,200
weeks to hang out uh in san diego you

4250
02:58:03,269 --> 02:58:00,640
mean yeah yeah

4251
02:58:05,670 --> 02:58:03,279
yeah i think i'm coming in uh

4252
02:58:07,990 --> 02:58:05,680
the day before the night before the

4253
02:58:10,230 --> 02:58:08,000
conference and i'll pretty much be there

4254
02:58:12,469 --> 02:58:10,240
at the conference in san diego for

4255
02:58:15,510 --> 02:58:12,479
the two days and then i think i leave

4256
02:58:17,110 --> 02:58:15,520
monday night something like that

4257
02:58:19,110 --> 02:58:17,120
that's reason enough for me to come down

4258
02:58:21,269 --> 02:58:19,120
to san diego and hang out right come

4259
02:58:23,670 --> 02:58:21,279
down and hang out that sounds great

4260
02:58:25,190 --> 02:58:23,680
adam behave and be well and for

4261
02:58:26,710 --> 02:58:25,200
everybody it's very simple

4262
02:58:28,950 --> 02:58:26,720
atomapollo.com

4263
02:58:31,349 --> 02:58:28,960
is the website go and hang out the

4264
02:58:33,030 --> 02:58:31,359
residents academy adam you're the

4265
02:58:35,190 --> 02:58:33,040
absolute very best my friend thank you

4266
02:58:36,790 --> 02:58:35,200
so much thanks for having me jimmy great

4267
02:58:38,630 --> 02:58:36,800
to see you everyone thanks for having me

4268
02:58:40,389 --> 02:58:38,640
on your show and

4269
02:58:41,110 --> 02:58:40,399
love all you guys in the chat thank you

4270
02:58:42,790 --> 02:58:41,120
for

4271
02:58:44,830 --> 02:58:42,800
sharing and writing and expressing

4272
02:58:48,550 --> 02:58:44,840
yourself so

4273
02:58:51,269 --> 02:58:48,560
eloquently adam apollo that's why adam

4274
02:58:52,790 --> 02:58:51,279
was on with us tonight it's that mug

4275
02:58:58,230 --> 02:58:52,800
thank you

4276
02:59:00,950 --> 02:58:58,240
jimmy take care see you again soon

4277
02:59:04,070 --> 02:59:00,960
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4281
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4295
02:59:43,590 --> 02:59:42,399
church tomorrow night right here billy

4296
02:59:45,910 --> 02:59:43,600
carson

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02:59:47,910 --> 02:59:45,920
the secrets of egypt i'm your host jimmy

4298
02:59:49,750 --> 02:59:47,920
church until tomorrow night i want

4299
02:59:56,310 --> 02:59:49,760
everybody to be safe